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Old 09-14-2017, 07:10 PM
 
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The amount that they make in the last few years absolutely increases their pension. If it didn't they wouldn't leave so much until the last year. I don't have problems with paying a decent wage to our first responders, but the practice of allowing them to hold back time until the big payoff needs to end.
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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They pay them enough so they can live in Great Neck.
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:30 AM
 
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The amount that they make in the last few years absolutely increases their pension. If it didn't they wouldn't leave so much until the last year. I don't have problems with paying a decent wage to our first responders, but the practice of allowing them to hold back time until the big payoff needs to end.
It already has mostly ended, for both the cops and the teachers. It just ends from the bottom up. People entering the system now will never see this kind of money, it's just the generation currently retiring.
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Old 09-15-2017, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Tierra del Encanto
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It already has mostly ended, for both the cops and the teachers. It just ends from the bottom up. People entering the system now will never see this kind of money, it's just the generation currently retiring.
While taxpayers carry the load for this for the next 20, 30, 40 years.
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Old 09-15-2017, 08:22 AM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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They pay them enough so they can live in Great Neck.
so all PO live in Great Neck? hmmmm shall we rename the area to Great Cops?
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Old 09-15-2017, 08:25 AM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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While taxpayers carry the load for this for the next 20, 30, 40 years.
try 40 or 50...or even 60 years. Its reasonably common for cops to retire in their 40s.
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Old 09-15-2017, 08:46 AM
 
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a friend of the family was badly hurt on the job in suffolk .

he has been on permanent disability which runs 140k a year tax free . he gets 10% above his salary because of the nature of the event which happened while on patrol . .

in two years he would have been on the job 20 years but because of the event he gets 85% of his salary without the extra 10% as pension . he jumps to the higher levels and not the 20 year level . . .

while it is a lot of money he rather have his health and job back . it has been quite a few years and still having surgeries .

they could not pay me enough to go through a life changing ordeal like that .

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Old 09-15-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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It already has mostly ended, for both the cops and the teachers. It just ends from the bottom up. People entering the system now will never see this kind of money, it's just the generation currently retiring.
True, the pendulum is swinging back (no thanks to the 2 or 3 apologist/rationalization nimrods who show up here). The old deals are contractual and nothing to do but ride them out. Plus Triborough Amend lets the bad contracts roll on for eternity until a new deal is made. Collective bargaining is slow.

Still plenty of abuse though. Nassau Legislators voted to double their salaries. No one touching retirement pay to convicted criminals. Constitutional convention is a den of special interest vultures and locusts. What rational working person has time to sift through that mess? It's easier to vote no than to trust any of them to fix what actually needs fixing without giving themselves hookers and Carvel sundaes in the fine print.

Also know, the tax cap which maybe saved us straight up from 5%+ tax increases every year since 2011 is under attack with 17 bills in Albany all looking to scale it back or add exclusions. Bi-partisan, of course.
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Kings Park & Jamesport
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It already has mostly ended, for both the cops and the teachers. It just ends from the bottom up. People entering the system now will never see this kind of money, it's just the generation currently retiring.
Yes and no. Cops can still pile on the OT which is a huge benefit.
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Old 09-15-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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Yes and no. Cops can still pile on the OT which is a huge benefit.
In addition to the OT they still get more sick, personal, holidays, and vacation than people can only dream of. According the Nassau Police website they get the following:

10 paid holidays annually for the first two years, increasing to 12;
15 paid vacation days to start, increasing to 30 days after 15 years of service;
18 sick days to start, increasing to 26 days after one year of service;
5 personal days

That is 73 workdays after 15 years they get to use or carryover every year!!!

On top of that they work less than 5 days a week like most people. They work something like 2 on than 3 days off than 3 days on than 4 days off. So they average about 3 days a week working. So 73 vacation/personal/sick/holidays divided by 3 (average days of work per week) equals 24 weeks off per year.

Basically they could take a vacation for 3 months during the year and still be able carryover 11 weeks to cash out when they retire every year.
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