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Old 12-17-2017, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Halethorphe, MD
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A friend was driving through Nassau county when they crossed an HOV divider. They were issued two tickets:

"It’s the same thing with different wording. “Drove across hazard marking” and “disobeyed traffic control device”. The traffic control device and hazard marking being the HOV line."

Is this standard practice?
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Old 12-17-2017, 02:02 PM
 
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I don’t think they are the same.

Driving across the hazard marking is the solid line.

Disobeying the traffic control device is ignoring the sign that says you can’t cross the solid line.

No sign, no second ticket. No solid line, no first ticket.
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Old 12-17-2017, 02:21 PM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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Yup, it's not the same thing. This is basically the cop's way of saying "you're effed on this". Was your friend not so nice and friendly to the officer?
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Old 12-17-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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I got 3 once for the same thing. Since I was alone I got the can't be in an HOV lane either.

Had to go to Nassau Courts... they reduced it to one.

Total Scam.
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Old 12-17-2017, 07:18 PM
 
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Don’t break the law and there won’t be any problems.
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Old 12-17-2017, 07:21 PM
 
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Time to move...
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by amazinmets73 View Post
A friend was driving through Nassau county when they crossed an HOV divider. They were issued two tickets:

"It’s the same thing with different wording. “Drove across hazard marking” and “disobeyed traffic control device”. The traffic control device and hazard marking being the HOV line."

Is this standard practice?
Your 'friend' could have also been cited for improper lane change, failure to signal, and cause of potential hazardous conditions to other drivers. Consider yourself [er, I mean your friend] lucky.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:51 PM
 
Location: SC
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Re: the solid white line... I would investigate fighting that... Maybe you can talk to an expert, but my understand is that in some (all?) states, crossing the solid while line is not prohibited, but "DISCOURAGED."

Traffic Talk: Is it legal to cross a solid white line? What about driving on the shoulder to pass someone waiting to turn left? | MLive.com

The MMUTCD (awkwardly) states: “Where crossing the lane line markings with care is permitted, the lane line markings shall consist of a normal broken white line.”

OK, you can cross if it is NOT solid. I think most people know that. But wait, there's more. The manual goes on to say this (again, awkwardly): “Where crossing the lane line markings is discouraged, the lane line markings shall consist of a solid white line.”

“So,” Church said, “contrary to common belief, a solid white line DISCOURAGES but does not outright prohibit crossing.”
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Should've been 3.

I can't stand those who cross them intentionally like they don't give a crap and can't wait like 98% of everybody else. I bet that won't happen again.
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:59 PM
 
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No can do on the white line.
There is signage for it.
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