LIPA: $940 million to modernize Island Park plant (New York, Hempstead: how much, to buy)

[longislandmike]

LIPA: $940 million to modernize Island Park plant -- Newsday.com (http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-lilipa196074535mar19,0,6783402.story - broken link)

I guess this 90% Federal Tax "proposal" will just about leave nothing for State Tax.

They will just come to every home, and shake EVERYONE upside-down...LITERALLY !

[suzook]

gee, guess who's paying for that? its time to get off this island. half my bill is already a "surcharge".

[suzook]

Originally Posted by longislandmike

I guess this 90% Federal Tax "proposal" will just about leave nothing for State Tax.

They will just come to every home, and shake EVERYONE upside-down...LITERALLY !

how much more can they shake out of us? i have nothing left

[Walter Greenspan]

longislandmike, this is another example of NEWSDAY mistaking the community name in a place's mailing address for the community in which that place is located:

In the first paragraph, the article states, "The price tag for modernizing the giant E.F. Barrett power plant in Island Park ... "

The E.F. Barrett power plant is in Barnum Island ("Island Park, NY 11558" mailing address).

In other words, if you want to send a letter to the E.F. Barrett power plant, you would address this letter to "Island Park, NY 11558"; however, if you want to actually go to the E.F. Barrett power plant, you would go to Barnum Island.

It is important to understand that Barnum Island is one of those many villages and hamlets on Long Island where none of the places in the community have the hamlet name in their mailing address.


For those who may not be familiar with Barnum Island:

Barnum Island is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the southwest part of the Town of Hempstead, in the southwest part of Nassau County.

Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Barnum Island in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by Simonson Channel and the Hamlet of Oceanside; on the east by the East Channel; on the south by Reynolds Channel; and, on the west by the Village of Island Park.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ae/Barnum-island-ny-map.gif (broken link)


Barnum Island is one of those many villages and hamlets on Long Island where none of the places in the community have the hamlet name in their mailing address: places in the Hamlet of Barnum Island have an "Island Park, NY 11558" mailing address.


For a good set of town-by-town maps showing all the villages and hamlets in each of LI's 13 towns (3 in Nassau County and 10 in Suffolk County): Excellent Long Island Geographic Resource

[Interlude]

We pay the second highest electric rates in the country and rates keep going up.

Yet, residents of Long Island have already rejected a new nuclear plant (Shoreham), a ~150MW offshore wind farm (plans for which were shut down around the same time as the planned wind farm off of Cape Cod due to asthetic concerns) and a Liquid Natural Gas facility (proposed to be built 13 miles off the coast of Long Beach). We are in serious need of additional power generation. People complain about the rates but NIMBY any new proposal, leaving LIPA to have to buy power and pour money into natural gas plants to make up the different - while having to raise rates anyway. Not to mention deal with the debt that came along with assuming responsibility for dismantling Shoreham.

Local politicans pray on ignorance and, since 9/11, the fear of terrorist attacks to rally public support against new plants and the people just eat this up while complaining about their electric bills. The nuclear plants that we DO have still running from the 70s face a nasty environmental lobby which is constantly trying to have them shut down, again citing specious claims about danger and now OMG TERRORISTS claims. Indian Point, a facility located upstate from NYC, has been under assault since the late 1970s following the 3-mile-island incident. Many New York politicans have been lobbying for the plant's closure for decades despite the fact that it alone provides 30% of the power for the NYC metro area. So not only can we not build new plants, we can barely keep the plants we have open.

Power has to come from somewhere. Right now, on a nationwide basis, far too much comes from coal - a dirty, dangerous fuel source that pollutes our air and water, releases untold amounts of greenhouse gases, spoils our landscapes and costs lives directly in mining accidents. Yet we do not have the will to do anything about it. Opposing nuclear, or wind, or solar, or even LNG plants means that more is coming from coal and our rates continuing to go up.

[suzook]

if the dumba$$ enviromentalists would have left the shoreham plant alone, we would have the cheapest rates in the country, along with starting a trend. other countries use nuclear, and are safe. we NEED a nuclear plant. I tell you what, build it in my backyard if you have to.

[longislandmike]

It's not going to end here...ever here of the National SMART GRID proposal ?

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