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Old 06-03-2014, 05:23 PM
 
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DTLA is proly one of the best things about LA!
lol there is more to do outside of downtown than in it.
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Old 06-03-2014, 05:56 PM
 
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That's just me personally. I tend to go there a lot. I find so much to do.
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Old 06-03-2014, 06:52 PM
 
Location: The city of champions
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That's just me personally. I tend to go there a lot. I find so much to do.
Agreed. DTLA is awesome. I love going there, especially los callejones.
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:17 PM
 
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I took a vacation to LA in the month of June in the mid 1980's and I was really surprised how trashed out LA looked. Growing up in Indiana, California always seemed kind of exotic to me, almost a paradise. I didn't see too much in LA city limits that I liked, but I really did like Santa Monica Beach, Venice Beach, and Westwood. I liked the vibe of those areas. But as far as LA, the city itself, I was really disappointed in it.

Seems like most of the businesses would board up their windows when it got dark. It made LA feel like a dangerous place, but I never felt unsafe or threatened there. Even the LA skyline at the time was not all that impressive looking for such a large city. Houston's skyline was much more dynamic and futuristic looking than LA's. That was in the 80's. I'm sure things have changed a lot since then.

I'd like to go back again but on my next California trip, I also wanna go to Monterey, Carmel and that area, and then on to San Francisco, and a place that I have always heard of, Mendocino.
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Old 06-03-2014, 09:40 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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lol there is more to do outside of downtown than in it.
That's true of any city.
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Even when these ppl go vacationing they search out those familiar places and hate to try new things.
Sorry but I dont see how LA is different. How many people drive around in leased BMWs? How many women wear the ridiculous oversized sunglasses?

'We won't judge you?'. This is LOS ANGELES. Image central. Hands down some of the most self-absorbed people I have ever come across.

There are things I love about LA - but 'non-conformist' and 'non-judgemental' and 'trying new things?'. Puh-lease.
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Old 06-04-2014, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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DTLA is proly one of the best things about LA!
There are some interesting things happening there for sure, but it's got a LONG way to go before it's a real 'downtown' as in self-sufficient day and nightlife like other major cities.
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Old 06-04-2014, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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And LA looks old. Once you pass La Brea you see the cracks in the city.
An interesting observation that I agree with, one that I think eventually becomes part of whether one loves or hates LA. It's constantly setting trends in some ways but in terms of architecture, the look of the city itself there is an aged, decadent quality that permeates everything. I've come to see it as lingering decay, as evidence of a city that at its heart is incapable of changing in certain ways. But I can also see how others would take pleasure in all of that. Kind of like how some people love the South for similar reasons.
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Old 06-04-2014, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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see what they perceive to be an unsightly urban mess. It's not.
Oh come on now, LA absolutely IS an unsightly urban mess. That's part of it's appeal. It's a sprawling clusterf*ck of a city. You refer to it like it's a good thing. It's not. It's evidence of a city that has a lot of problems as sis typical of major cities that are as old as Los Angeles. Layers upon layers of bullsh*t and brilliance. I don't think it's something some people 'get' as it is some people have no problem ignoring why some things are as messed up as they are. A lot of LA IS 'ghetto' that's not something someone needs to 'get it' to deal with it. It's a problem that many of us have to suck and deal with while we live here.

It's like saying someone doesn't get why NYC in the early 80s was so cool. Yeah, there was cool stuff going on but if you actually lived there (depending where of course), it also kind of sucked.
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Old 06-04-2014, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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I think much of LA's net out-migration of Americans is due to folks being priced out. There is a large amount of Americans coming moving in, probably one of the largest in raw numbers in the country.
Reverse white flight has been in effect for some time now. Urban is now in and nationwide cities are experiencing big growth. Los Angeles will be no exception. Another reason why I'm outta here. 18 million people and *growing*? Oh, hell no. Already ranked #1 worst traffic in the country. That is not going to get better any time soon, if ever (its cute little train plans aside).
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