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Old 09-02-2016, 06:07 PM
 
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It's simple. Housing First.
Stop homelessness?
Homes.
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Old 09-02-2016, 06:22 PM
 
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Purge !!!! Lol jk

Move em all out to the high desert cities and build low income housing and shelters.

But for some reason, they homeless are attracted to Los Angeles.
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Old 09-02-2016, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Read my post again, I said it would require changes to the law. That being said, I would argue that someone that has mental illness that affects their ability to provide shelter for themselves is gravely disabled.
No, not just changes to the law, but changes to the constitution, but don't take my word for it look at the Court decisions on this matter. The very questions you seem to think are up for debate have been decided and are not going to be reversed because it irritates people to have to walk past homeless people on their way to work. No court is EVER going make the simple act of not having housing a reason to either arrest or involuntarily confine a person, so why talk about it has any chance at all of happening?
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It would work the same way ICE raids on meatpacking plants and factories work, only instead of deporting hard working immigrants, you're deporting people that are a drain on the rest of society. If ICE can figure out if a meatpacker is in the country legally, they can figure out if a squatter on public property is.
No, it would not work the same. When you get a job you are required to show proof of identity and employment eligibility, but employers are not required to verify the documents. When ICE raids a business they check the ID's provided by the employees and if they are forged and they can't provide valid ID they can be arrested and deported. Other than for that purpose, or to apply for social benefits there is NO requirement for anyone in this Country to own or produce an ID or provide evidence of their citizenship status. ICE cannot round up homeless people because they don't have an ID card, in fact they can't even ask them to show an ID unless they are a suspect in a crime.

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Old 09-02-2016, 07:47 PM
 
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Most "homeless" people on the street are there, not because they lost a job and just need them a break to get back on their feet, they are drug addicts or mentally ill, usually both. It isn't a money problem.

Giving them a home or throwing money at them will not help either problem.
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Old 09-02-2016, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Most "homeless" people on the street are there, not because they lost a job and just need them a break to get back on their feet, they are drug addicts or mentally ill, usually both. It isn't a money problem. Giving them a home or throwing money at them will not help either problem.
Of course giving them a place to live solves the problem, what the heck are you even talking about?
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Old 09-02-2016, 09:48 PM
 
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But for some reason, they homeless are attracted to Los Angeles.
Um yes. After all the vast majority lived in LA by choice prior to becoming homeless there.
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Old 09-03-2016, 07:25 AM
 
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Of course giving them a place to live solves the problem, what the heck are you even talking about?
Have you worked with and had in depth talks with homeless people?
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Old 09-03-2016, 07:32 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Have you worked with and had in depth talks with homeless people?
I have. In depth. For years. You are out of your league. Housing First works. Leaving them on the streets exacerbates their problems and assures the trouble will interfere with the general public and results in higher costs.

If you don't have in-depth knowledge and experience, the best thing you can do to be helpful is stop repeating mythology on the subject.
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Old 09-03-2016, 08:01 AM
 
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Have you worked with and had in depth talks with homeless people?
yep, have you?
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Old 09-03-2016, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Riverside Ca
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Here is the issue

You guys talk about all these buildings to be used for housing homeless. The problem is that in order to do so the building has to be revamped to shelter people. Which means building codes, ADA, HVAC, fire/life safety, p,imbuing electrical, rooms, kitchens etc and a lot of money. You guys are talking about millions of dollars in funding to house 50,000 people
It's just not gonna happen. You can't just throw a bunch of people in a building and call it housing.

Institutionalize.
Ok who is going to pay that? Have any of you guys seen a institution? I have. There are a lot of crazy people out there. And it costs a lot of money to house, feed, treat and medicate them. The money currently allocated for "the homeless crisis" is a pittance. Want higher taxes to pay for it? Money has to come from somewhere.

Throwing someone in jail for being homeless isn't a answer. It's simply a get them out of my immediate area solution. Exactly how is that helping that homeless guy.



You can resolve but it would take politically incorrect steps to do so.
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