How would YOU resolve LA's homeless problem? (Los Angeles, Palmdale: renting, buying a home)

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

I just gave you in-depth information that, if you read and understood it, should have short-circuited this post from you. Your ignorance is beginning to seem intentionally biased. You have some kind of arrogant agenda perhaps. You can't cut off the problem at the root. The root is that human nature is unequal to all circumstances for all people all the time. There will always be those who fall into desperate circumstances and respond with erratic behavior.

Reflecting back on your earlier posts in this thread - and in spite of your statement that you don't favor cruel and drastic measures against the homeless - I'm beginning to think you do advocate just shooting them.

Yes the root can be cut off at the problem.

But that's not what you or 2Sleepy want. I suspect you both despite claims to be otherwise DIRECTLY benefit from various social programs, in other words you are on welfare and of course advocate for more welfare programs.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

But that's not what you or 2Sleepy want. I suspect you both despite claims to be otherwise DIRECTLY benefit from various social programs, in other words you are on welfare and of course advocate for more welfare programs.

mum never taught you how to lose gracefully eh?

[NyWriterdude]

Basically charity programs for the poor, including Section 8, Supportive housing, etc do not work. There's massive social stigma against them ,and these places tend to be built in areas at the time which are considered undesirable.

We know there won't be lots of new supportive housing on the Westside, and even areas like Hollywood or Downtown that once could have gotten lots of new supportive housing want (it's much more lucrative to sell real estate to developers).

If anyone things any major city in the US is going to built enough "supportive" housing to end homelessness I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

No politician would be able to sell a big tax increase like that, neighborhoods would fight against it, and for various reasons it is not going to happen.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

mum never taught you how to lose gracefully eh?

Unlike you I have professional experience and education, so I don't need to go on by what my mom taught me.

The homelessness in skid row at least (mostly Black) related to mass incarceration, war on drugs, and the socioeconomic marginalization that BLACKS faced in this nation. I'm not interested in putting those people in supportive/welfare housing, as again it's not like the projects work out so well in ANY CITY in the nation. They need to be integrated into the society and they need to work. And no this problem had NOTHING do with human nature, there were and are specific policies at the level of the government that caused this.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

Yes the root can be cut off at the problem.

But that's not what you or 2Sleepy want. I suspect you both despite claims to be otherwise DIRECTLY benefit from various social programs, in other words you are on welfare and of course advocate for more welfare programs.

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

Basically charity programs for the poor, including Section 8, Supportive housing, etc do not work. There's massive social stigma against them ,and these places tend to be built in areas at the time which are considered undesirable.

We know there won't be lots of new supportive housing on the Westside, and even areas like Hollywood or Downtown that once could have gotten lots of new supportive housing want (it's much more lucrative to sell real estate to developers).

If anyone things any major city in the US is going to built enough "supportive" housing to end homelessness I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

No politician would be able to sell a big tax increase like that, neighborhoods would fight against it, and for various reasons it is not going to happen.

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

Unlike you I have professional experience and education, so I don't need to go on by what my mom taught me.

The homelessness in skid row at least (mostly Black) related to mass incarceration, war on drugs, and the socioeconomic marginalization that BLACKS faced in this nation. I'm not interested in putting those people in supportive/welfare housing, as again it's not like the projects work out so well in ANY CITY in the nation. They need to be integrated into the society and they need to work. And no this problem had NOTHING do with human nature, there were and are specific policies at the level of the government that caused this.

Well, lol ... I'm glad I gave you a LOT of rope to hang yourself

2sleepy and I are each retired on welfare? You "suspect" this because? Because you've just been thoroughly schooled - and flunked.

[Derpistan]

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

Unlike you I have professional experience and education, so I don't need to go on by what my mom taught me.

The homelessness in skid row at least (mostly Black) related to mass incarceration, war on drugs, and the socioeconomic marginalization that BLACKS faced in this nation. I'm not interested in putting those people in supportive/welfare housing, as again it's not like the projects work out so well in ANY CITY in the nation. They need to be integrated into the society and they need to work. And no this problem had NOTHING do with human nature, there were and are specific policies at the level of the government that caused this.

Just because you have an ivy league degree doesn't mean you have to act like the stereotypical east coast snob.

You're still a lowly school teacher, get over yourself.

[honobob]

[quote=NyWriterdude;45427500]Unlike you I have professional experience and education, so I don't need to go on by what my mom taught me.

[quote]

Charm school? How quaint. You'll go far.

[adr3naline]

I'm glad to see my thread flourished into a colorful conversation.

[Derpistan]

Originally Posted by adr3naline

I'm glad to see my thread flourished into a colorful conversation.

Be quiet you lazy welfare mooching bum!


jk.

[payutenyodagimas]

there are already non profits who do good things for society. there are food banks for the hungry. and the problem is homelessness.


so the solution is to build homes/houses/shelter. if you build in the city, it costs a lot. so why not build outside the city, say Palmdale? then bring the food banks there, the non profits who are feeding the homeless and hungry?


they need not build high rises or multi family homes. maybe barracks style, where they can put down their mattresses or sleeping bags.


then assign cops to patrol the shelters


this is better than the homeless sleeping in the streets


if somebody needs warm bodies, just go these shelters and pick those who are willing to work