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Old 06-10-2017, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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What do you guys think of this ?


If these low income people don't own a car now are they going to pay to rent one by the minute ?

If they own a car already I doubt they will rent one to "go green "

I can see this ending up being popular with the hipsters in these areas though since its going to be in Downtown LA, echo park and some other areas with a lot of hipsters .
All the areas mentioned already have very good transit access . I'd say if they really wanted it to help low income people , do it more in remote areas of the valley like Pacoima or Lake View Terrace .

Seems like another symbolic spend of taxpayer money .

Another issue , insurance . Will insurance be included in the rental ? It just says the cars will be available to anyone with a drivers license over 18 .
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The cars will be available 24/7 at self-service kiosks and can be rented by the minute or via a monthly subscription. Exact rates haven’t been set, but city officials said prices will range from 15 cents to 80 cents per minute of drive time.

State lawmakers have been pushing Californians to consider zero-emission vehicles such as hybrids and electric cars. But going green can be especially difficult for low-income families.

New L.A. car-sharing service aims to serve low-income neighborhoods - LA Times
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Old 06-10-2017, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Some more info
https://la.curbed.com/2017/6/9/15771...angeles-bluela
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Old 06-10-2017, 03:18 PM
 
Location: NY/LA
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I'm open to trying new things to increase transportation access and promote EVs. One of the advantages of EVs is that, although they're more expensive to purchase, they should be less expensive to operate and maintain. Electricity is cheaper than gas.

If it turns out the costs outweigh the benefits, then can it.
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Old 06-10-2017, 05:28 PM
 
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What do you guys think of this ?


If these low income people don't own a car now are they going to pay to rent one by the minute ?

If they own a car already I doubt they will rent one to "go green "

I can see this ending up being popular with the hipsters in these areas though since its going to be in Downtown LA, echo park and some other areas with a lot of hipsters .
All the areas mentioned already have very good transit access . I'd say if they really wanted it to help low income people , do it more in remote areas of the valley like Pacoima or Lake View Terrace .

Seems like another symbolic spend of taxpayer money .

Another issue , insurance . Will insurance be included in the rental ? It just says the cars will be available to anyone with a drivers license over 18 .
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The cars will be available 24/7 at self-service kiosks and can be rented by the minute or via a monthly subscription. Exact rates haven’t been set, but city officials said prices will range from 15 cents to 80 cents per minute of drive time.

State lawmakers have been pushing Californians to consider zero-emission vehicles such as hybrids and electric cars. But going green can be especially difficult for low-income families.

New L.A. car-sharing service aims to serve low-income neighborhoods - LA Times
Most of the areas that have hipsters have mass transit(ex. Red Line).

I would wonder also about insurance, hopefully they would have to pay extra for that.

What's really the point? It's putting more cars on the road, if the ones who are without a car here are getting around fine why not leave it alone.

If you're a hiptser living in Highland Park you take the Gold Line to downtown and the Red Line over to Hollywood.
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Old 06-10-2017, 05:33 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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As a general rule I don't like these shared cars, particularly because the drivers aren't stakeholders in the cars and they sometimes drive in a manner that reflects their lack of concern for smashing into somebody else.
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Old 06-10-2017, 06:29 PM
 
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As a general rule I don't like these shared cars, particularly because the drivers aren't stakeholders in the cars and they sometimes drive in a manner that reflects their lack of concern for smashing into somebody else.
Good point.

And if they want a car vs. mass transit they probably want to get somewhere quicker, which could mean reckless driving.

And do we want hipsters who moved here from the midwest or NY who don't have cars behind the wheel in LA traffic?

I notice I often see out of state plates(I'm guessing new transplants) on the 101 when traffic is slowing down than speeding up and they're texting. Always younger people. They need to pay attention, especially if they came from an area that doesn't have a lot of traffic.

A program like this puts more of them on the road.
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