WSJ says L.A. people selling homes, flocking to Phoenix and Vegas as tax realities set it (settlement, investor)

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by MuscleCar

I've read statistics that if you want a bonafied middle class life in L.A., with the 3/2 house, 2 cars, 2 kids, etc that it takes $150k/yr and based on home prices that's true. Anything less than that standard of living is subpar to me.

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Very true. And noted that Mr. Muscle said nothing about issues of character providing the foundation for living well through a sense of fulfillment. Many poor people are enjoying their lives through service to friends, famiiy, and community in spite of minimal financial wealth. Muscle seems burdened by materialism.

100% !

So, the answer -- for him, at least -- is to move to Phoenix and be more consumed with materialism, and be surrounded by more materialistic people. It's a very Republican value these days, sadly.

For these types of people though, there is never an "enough". Whatever money he thinks he'll have in Phoenix will never be "enough" either. Wifey's materialistic appetite will continue to grow, as will the credit card bills, the interest rates, the need for newer/pricier items, and the need to have to keep up with Kyle and Becky two doors down, etc.

Seeing these people juxtapose this with their supposedly "Christian" values is entertaining from a sociological perspective.

This is one of the reasons I really detest the area where I grew up: Santa Clarita.

It's filled with tacky, stucco, over-mortgaged McMansions; people living on high-interest credit cards; plastic surgery specialists; people thinking that filing into the megachurch for a concert-style "worship" service on Sunday absolves them of their rotten social attitudes; kids bullying other kids with less, crap-talking about the people in San Fernando Valley and Antelope Valley, b*tching about minorities and "welfare", racism, paranoid Joe Sixpacks with guns stockpiled everywhere, rampant Mormon nepotism and cronyism, homophobia...the list goes on!

I know what Pheonix and Arizona is like because I grew up in a part of L.A. that mirrors it. No thanks!

[MuscleCar]

�� Ohhhh but ain't that America ��

Little stucko houses, for you and me....

"John Mellencamp"

[MuscleCar]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

100% !

So, the answer -- for him, at least -- is to move to Phoenix and be more consumed with materialism, and be surrounded by more materialistic people. It's a very Republican value these days, sadly.

For these types of people though, there is never an "enough". Whatever money he thinks he'll have in Phoenix will never be "enough" either. Wifey's materialistic appetite will continue to grow, as will the credit card bills, the interest rates, the need for newer/pricier items, and the need to have to keep up with Kyle and Becky two doors down, etc.

Seeing these people juxtapose this with their supposedly "Christian" values is entertaining from a sociological perspective.

This is one of the reasons I really detest the area where I grew up: Santa Clarita.

It's filled with tacky, stucco, over-mortgaged McMansions; people living on high-interest credit cards; plastic surgery specialists; people thinking that filing into the megachurch for a concert-style "worship" service on Sunday absolves them of their rotten social attitudes; kids bullying other kids with less, crap-talking about the people in San Fernando Valley and Antelope Valley, b*tching about minorities and "welfare", racism, paranoid Joe Sixpacks with guns stockpiled everywhere, rampant Mormon nepotism and cronyism, homophobia...the list goes on!

I know what Pheonix and Arizona is like because I grew up in a part of L.A. that mirrors it. No thanks!

You're describing something a lot of people shed blood and died for, versus your craptastic socialist liberal fantasy. Shame on you.

[Finper]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

100% !

So, the answer -- for him, at least -- is to move to Phoenix and be more consumed with materialism, and be surrounded by more materialistic people. It's a very Republican value these days, sadly.

For these types of people though, there is never an "enough". Whatever money he thinks he'll have in Phoenix will never be "enough" either. Wifey's materialistic appetite will continue to grow, as will the credit card bills, the interest rates, the need for newer/pricier items, and the need to have to keep up with Kyle and Becky two doors down, etc.

Seeing these people juxtapose this with their supposedly "Christian" values is entertaining from a sociological perspective.

This is one of the reasons I really detest the area where I grew up: Santa Clarita.

It's filled with tacky, stucco, over-mortgaged McMansions; people living on high-interest credit cards; plastic surgery specialists; people thinking that filing into the megachurch for a concert-style "worship" service on Sunday absolves them of their rotten social attitudes; kids bullying other kids with less, crap-talking about the people in San Fernando Valley and Antelope Valley, b*tching about minorities and "welfare", racism, paranoid Joe Sixpacks with guns stockpiled everywhere, rampant Mormon nepotism and cronyism, homophobia...the list goes on!

I know what Pheonix and Arizona is like because I grew up in a part of L.A. that mirrors it. No thanks!

Wow I had no idea Santa Clarita and Phoenix are 100% republican. Must be nice that no Dems are living above their means here in a very expensive state. I guess in your eyes no dems are christians either. You live in a very black and white world.... in your mind.

[Taksan]

I’m a member of a minority, I’m a proud parent of a gay child, I don’t have a mortgage on any of my residences, I haven’t paid 1 cent in credit card interest in my life and I’m not religious and haven’t stepped foot in a church apart from attending weddings. I don’t even have a six pack .... in fact the only thing you got right was I own guns ... a few hundred of them.

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by MuscleCar

You're describing something a lot of people shed blood and died for, versus your craptastic socialist liberal fantasy. Shame on you.

Another Sean Hannity one-liner? Something I've consistently noticed about your posts is that, while seemingly "punchy" to a certain aspect of your audience, are also amazingly short on substance.

[MuscleCar]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

Another Sean Hannity one-liner? Something I've consistently noticed about your posts is that, while seemingly "punchy" to a certain aspect of your audience, are also amazingly short on substance.

Why not just be to the point? Nothing you say would sway my opinion anyway. Probably just fuels and solidifies it more.

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by MuscleCar

Why not just be to the point? Nothing you say would sway my opinion anyway. Probably just fuels and solidifies it more.

I don't intend to sway your opinion on anything, but if you're going to make a statement so bold as:

You're describing something a lot of people shed blood and died for, versus your craptastic socialist liberal fantasy. Shame on you.

...to essentially justify your penchant for rabid materialism, one would think you could back it up intellectually or philosophically without Fox News-type platitudes.

By the way, it was nice watching Fox News get their asses handed to them, on a platter no less, by Bernie Sanders this afternoon!

Not at all the outcome I'm sure they were hoping for....

[MuscleCar]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

I don't intend to sway your opinion on anything, but if you're going to make a statement so bold as:



...to essentially justify your penchant for rabid materialism, one would think you could back it up intellectually or philosophically without Fox News-type platitudes.

By the way, it was nice watching Fox News get their asses handed to them, on a platter no less, by Bernie Sanders this afternoon!

Not at all the outcome I'm sure they were hoping for....

So you want me to write a novella? And as for Bernie, chances are slim. No one thought Trump would win, and look what happened. Goldman Sachs already predicts a Trump reelection, and I believe I will trust in the string-pulling financiers over a bunch of whiny have-nots that just want to leech off others like desperate vampires.

[kttam186290]

Originally Posted by MuscleCar

So you want me to write a novella? And as for Bernie, chances are slim. No one thought Trump would win, and look what happened. Goldman Sachs already predicts a Trump reelection, and I believe I will trust in the string-pulling financiers over a bunch of whiny have-nots that just want to leech off others like desperate vampires.

Goldman Sachs predicted Hillary Clinton was going to win in 2016 too... ZING!!!