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Old 11-08-2019, 06:13 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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That's not necessarily true. You're looking at it in a vacuum. How many projects is a sports stadium developer going to build in Southern California over the next 50 years. Meanwhile, how many affordable housing units could a developer build in SoCal over the next 50 years? You aren't considering volume while focusing solely on an individual project.

There's more residential real estate (by $) in the US than there is commercial.

Also, the very fact that your assumption is based on money under the table is de facto subjective. You will never be able to quantify that. Also, it was fairly clear my initial proposition was related to revenue to the city, not individuals.
Why has the Inglewood city council chosen to ignore the law that states affordable housing needs to be built on the land? And that's what was there before the property was condemned. And do we, or do we not have a "housing shortage" as we've been told incessantly by our civic leaders?
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Why has the Inglewood city council chosen to ignore the law that states affordable housing needs to be built on the land? And that's what was there before the property was condemned. And do we, or do we not have a "housing shortage" as we've been told incessantly by our civic leaders?
Yet more evidence of a poster who doesn't pay attention to civic affairs....

https://www.dailybreeze.com/2019/11/...sidents-group/

A judge threw out the lawsuit against the city from a community group that argued the city was violating the Ca. Surplus Land Act. Strike No. 1


The judge, "sided with Inglewood’s argument that the land was not “surplus” because the city’s intended use for the property — for economic development and aircraft noise mitigation — was consistent with the state law."

It is also land in a flight path that the FAA has deemed not suitable for residential development. Strike No. 2

While negotiations between the city and the Clippers organization are ongoing, the current agreement calls for the $100 million in community benefits, including $75 million for up to 400 affordable housing units, rent relief and first-time home buyer assistance. City officials say the arena would generate $190 million in tax revenues over the next 25 years. Strike No. 3

As was noted upthread, the Fiscalization of land use is driving this decision by the city. None of this negates the housing issues the city, region and state face. No matter how hard you want to make it true...you are simply dead wrong. Case closed.

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Old 11-09-2019, 12:39 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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Yet more evidence of a poster who doesn't pay attention to civic affairs....

https://www.dailybreeze.com/2019/11/...sidents-group/

A judge threw out the lawsuit against the city from a community group that argued the city was violating the Ca. Surplus Land Act. Strike No. 1


The judge, "sided with Inglewood’s argument that the land was not “surplus” because the city’s intended use for the property — for economic development and aircraft noise mitigation — was consistent with the state law."

It is also land in a flight path that the FAA has deemed not suitable for residential development. Strike No. 2

While negotiations between the city and the Clippers organization are ongoing, the current agreement calls for the $100 million in community benefits, including $75 million for up to 400 affordable housing units, rent relief and first-time home buyer assistance. City officials say the arena would generate $190 million in tax revenues over the next 25 years. Strike No. 3

As was noted upthread, the Fiscalization of land use is driving this decision by the city. None of this negates the housing issues the city, region and state face. No matter how hard you want to make it true...you are simply dead wrong. Case closed.
What was on the land before?
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Old 11-09-2019, 01:50 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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What was on the land before?
When? 20 years ago? 80 or 100 years ago? I imagine at one point this was agricultural land.

Over the last several decades, the Federal Aviation Administration and LAX have given the city millions to purchase and demolish hundreds of homes around the airport's flight path.

This has been a decades long effort. Here is a link to an LA Times article from 1987:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...797-story.html

From the article:
"The city has received a $2-million grant from the Federal Aviation Administration to purchase homes under the Los Angeles International Airport flight path and redevelop the land with commercial and industrial uses. The so-called noise compatibility project is designed to recycle property that the city has deemed incompatible for residential use because of the noise generated by low-flying planes. The recycling effort helps families that have a difficult time selling their properties because of noise, and helps build the city’s tax base through commercial and industrial development."
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Old 11-09-2019, 04:19 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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When? 20 years ago? 80 or 100 years ago? I imagine at one point this was agricultural land.

Over the last several decades, the Federal Aviation Administration and LAX have given the city millions to purchase and demolish hundreds of homes around the airport's flight path.

This has been a decades long effort. Here is a link to an LA Times article from 1987:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...797-story.html

From the article:
"The city has received a $2-million grant from the Federal Aviation Administration to purchase homes under the Los Angeles International Airport flight path and redevelop the land with commercial and industrial uses. The so-called noise compatibility project is designed to recycle property that the city has deemed incompatible for residential use because of the noise generated by low-flying planes. The recycling effort helps families that have a difficult time selling their properties because of noise, and helps build the city’s tax base through commercial and industrial development."
What was on the land before the condemnation?
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Old 11-11-2019, 08:34 PM
 
Location: So. Calif
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Where is all this OPEN LAND to build these homes ? All the land I BELIEVE that goes up to Inyo County - Owens Valley is owned by Dept of Water and Power so cannot put homes there. If there was such a big housing shortage they would NOT have put in the new Inglewood Stadium. Or let's put it this way - politicians did not care

Sure they are crying that we need more housing but there's hardly in place you can build anymore . Why would they CRY water shortage and want MORE PEOPLE moving to California? It's all BS - There is no way people can afford the housing prices today anyway. Most young families unless they got an inheritance. Politicians are full of poo poo folks in California.

They want us to be like New York City where houses are on top of each other and you can't afford 2-3 Million if not more back there as it is.... Again, where will all these houses go? California's traffic is so darn bad now. We are overloaded as is.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:21 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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Where is all this OPEN LAND to build these homes ? All the land I BELIEVE that goes up to Inyo County - Owens Valley is owned by Dept of Water and Power so cannot put homes there. If there was such a big housing shortage they would NOT have put in the new Inglewood Stadium. Or let's put it this way - politicians did not care

Sure they are crying that we need more housing but there's hardly in place you can build anymore . Why would they CRY water shortage and want MORE PEOPLE moving to California? It's all BS - There is no way people can afford the housing prices today anyway. Most young families unless they got an inheritance. Politicians are full of poo poo folks in California.

They want us to be like New York City where houses are on top of each other and you can't afford 2-3 Million if not more back there as it is.... Again, where will all these houses go? California's traffic is so darn bad now. We are overloaded as is.
Truer words have never been stated.

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