L.A.'s relevance fading? (San Francisco, Highland: unemployment, purchase, gated)

[The Illusive Man]

Originally Posted by PalmsTown

It's so odd. Nobody ever says Silicon Valley will leave the Bay. Or Wall Street will leave NYC.

But LA is always in danger of losing Hollywood. Makes no sense.

I think people like to think this way with no evidence or reason to back it up.

Haters are gonna hate. LA has plenty of people who hate it and wish it to have a terrible fate. I've seen people hoping LA falls into the ocean. It comes with the territory of being envied. This is the most polarizing city in the nation.

[radiolibre99]

LA is not in danger of losing its main industry. That's ridiculous. No other city in the country has the infrastructure to easily shoot a picture.

[Mr. Opinionated]

Originally Posted by The Illusive Man

Haters are gonna hate. LA has plenty of people who hate it and wish it to have a terrible fate. I've seen people hoping LA falls into the ocean. It comes with the territory of being envied. This is the most polarizing city in the nation.

People are only jealous of L.A.'s fame and popularity. Even people in Northern California love to bash about "weirdness, smog, traffic and gangs", as if those things dont exist anywhere else. But that is to be expected from the insecure when you are on top. As any well known celebrity.

[PalmsTown]

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Yup.

I'm not saying LA doesn't have it's challenges and problems because it does. I just think it's treated unfairly.

[DistrictDirt]

Originally Posted by Mr. Opinionated

People are only jealous of L.A.'s fame and popularity. Even people in Northern California love to bash about "weirdness, smog, traffic and gangs", as if those things dont exist anywhere else. But that is to be expected from the insecure when you are on top. As any well known celebrity.

I often hear Bay area residents bash LA for the fact that there are so many poor or working class neighborhoods, and the fact that there is such a large Mexican population. And that's when I realize that the liberalism and openness they often brag about up north is 100% bull****. Limousine liberalism maybe, but not true liberalism..that ended up there 20 years ago. Like New York, San Francisco has gotten too expensive and exclusive for its own good. If you're rich then NYC and SF are your oysters. But you can't say those cities have the artistic edge they used to. You can't simultaneously be a playground for the wealthy and also be artistic and edgy. Just ask all the artists in London that moved to Berlin when London became prohibitively expensive.

And that's what's cool about LA. It may be raw, brash, gritty, unfinished...but it also clearly has an edge right now.

[radiolibre99]

No joke. The liberalism up there is a bit limousine with the exception of Berkeley.

[Lavadog23]

Originally Posted by irishimm

Don't get me wrong, it still is the second most influential city in the country, by a long shot.

But it felt like there was a time during the 80's and 90's when L.A. was posing a serious challenge to NYC as the cultural center and most important city in the country. Things just seemed to be moving that way...but in this last decade it seems to have regressed, with NYC now the clear leader.

And this isn't an East/West thing, because other West Coast metros, like San Francisco, Seattle, San Diego, Las Vegas (ok, not coast but you get the point) have not necessarily lost any influence.

Believe it or not, the events of 9-11 have had a big effect on how NYC is perceived.

[grapico]

Originally Posted by PalmsTown

It's so odd. Nobody ever says Silicon Valley will leave the Bay. Or Wall Street will leave NYC.

But LA is always in danger of losing Hollywood. Makes no sense.

I think people like to think this way with no evidence or reason to back it up.

People most definitely say Silicon Valley has a chance of leaving the bay, technology is outsourced more than film. Also, trading floors around the country have downsized with electronic trading.

LA is usually bashed by Bay Area residents for materialism and sprawl, not really mexicans and asians, there are plenty of poor mexicans in SF and Bay Arean's love their mexican and asian food also.

whoever you know bashing LA for that is also probably bashing Oakland.

[PalmsTown]

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I'm confused. When did I mention Asians or Mexicans?

And while jobs are outsourced, does anyone really believe the actual giants of Silicon Valley or Wall Street will leave?

No.

[nslander]

Originally Posted by grapico

People most definitely say Silicon Valley has a chance of leaving the bay

Quick, somebody call Apple, Google and Facebook so they can put the brakes on wasting billions of dollars on headquarters’ expansion because there's not going to be any local tech industry left when they're done.

Whew.