Maine ranks #2 (Bingham: price, legal, trains)

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by wolfhelm

so maine=hippy, while californa=square, im lost as to how this works, i always assumed maine would be more conserverative, atleast for new england, with MA and CA being higher on the hippy scale.

Considering Haight / Ashbury park and how many communes were in Northern California, I would have thought they would rank higher. But one city block is not much compared to L.A., and all of the other huge cities with their corporate finance.

California is coming along nicely now with their blossoming organic movement, they are 40 years behind Maine though.

I do not know how many California communes have survived. This article ranks communes per capita, Maine has a much lower population so our commune-count is effectively much higher.

The whole Facebook factor is one I am not very sure about also.

[TheKezarWoodsman]

That makes alot of sense, but still, im fairly suprised. Does maine have alot of veganism? Or just ethical eating? If anything, i would put maine as middle of the road (hippys yes, but parts of maine i go to semi-regularly, seem to have a fairly good conserverative population, not as bad as texas ),if not alittle to the left, wereas i would put ma(my home state) as much further left.

[maineborzoi]

Actually I can believe this as evident even by only the 1st year in this state.
Maine, in general, strikes me as a " leave the government out of my business" which is, of course, the basis for the 'hippie' mentality and beliefs.

California, full of liberals, do seem to love to have the governement tell them what to do and how to do it...
Bottom line : Maine = hippies, and California = square

[TheKezarWoodsman]

Atleast though maine seems to be more gun/hunter/fisher friendly than what i would think most hippies would be. Not to the extent of the midwest ofc.


Also something tellsme a good chunk of the "hippies" live in the portland area.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by wolfhelm

... Does maine have alot of veganism?

I know a few vegans, and a few vegetarians here.

... Or just ethical eating?

Maine founded 'Certified Organic'. Back when no other state had it, and the concept of organic food had not entered the nationwide conversation.

Hippies were gardening and selling farm produce at road side stands in the 1970s.

The Common Ground Country Fair

The big hippy fair in September draws 25,000+ people a day. Thousands hitch-hike to the fair, work volunteer-shifts in exchange for food, and they camp in a campground adjacent to the fairgrounds.

Communal farms formed Co-Ops and networks, from those networks have grown MOFGA, FEDCO, Crown of Maine, and Port Clyde. The rate of 'growth' among organic farming is increasing. We have more farms every year, while nationwide the number of farms is in decline. We have programs that teach young farmers and that gets them onto farm land. Every year we see more Farmer's Markets opening in Maine.

The hippies of the 60's are a little different from the hippies of today. Today they hunt, fish, trap and forage. But they are still "Keep the government out of my business, along with banks and corporations"

They raise sheep, card wool and spin yarn. [among many dozens of other cottage industries]

There are big parties all summer long at Harry Brown's Farm in Starks. They have 6 or 8 parties each year, each has a list of bands.

Harry Browns Farm - The Hill Harry's Hill

- Harry's Hill Harry's Hill

[TheKezarWoodsman]

ok, bringing "the hippies of the 60's are a little different from the hippies of today. Today they hunt, fish, trap and forage." up i can see maine being hippie to an extent. i was thinking 60s hippies, which i do not see maine being a haven for.

[Electric Wizard]

As long as the hippies expect a capitalism rule of law and not socialist rules. Does it matter? I always respected their lets start a commune deal as it doesn't force the outside world to adapt to their ideals. You just have to submit to their core values as guidelines to live with the property boundaries.

Can we even call that liberalism? Sounds more conservative running a group with limited government oversight and having a community based on core values.

I liked your last post sub where you wrote -
"Communal farms formed Co-Ops and networks, from those networks have grown MOFGA, FEDCO, Crown of Maine, and Port Clyde. The rate of 'growth' among organic farming is increasing. We have more farms every year, while nationwide the number of farms is in decline. We have programs that teach young farmers and that gets them onto farm land. Every year we see more Farmer's Markets opening in Maine."

That's all just good old fashion homesteading. In a way the 60's hippies really managed to accomplish something. They managed to preserve a way a life that many tried to abandon and kept it alive until younger generations like myself were ready to come back to it.

Wasn't it not too long a ago a farmer near deer isle fought for his right to continue selling his milk to his neighbors? I think in the end didn't the county set guidelines that would always allow for farmer to customer transactions. Thats a real winning trait for your states character.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Electric Wizard

... Wasn't it not too long a ago a farmer near deer isle fought for his right to continue selling his milk to his neighbors? I think in the end didn't the county set guidelines that would always allow for farmer to customer transactions. Thats a real winning trait for your states character.

The USDA still considers that behavior illegal.

Yesterday the sixteenth town in Maine enacted 'Food Sovereignty' making it relatively legal for a farmer to sell directly to a customer.

Bingham passed the Local Food and Community Self-Governance Ordinance at a special town meeting last night 59-8!

Every town that passes the ordinance puts more pressure on the legislature to acknowledge the validity of it.

[mainebrokerman]

Originally Posted by wolfhelm

so maine=hippy, while californa=square, im lost as to how this works, i always assumed maine would be more conserverative, atleast for new england, with MA and CA being higher on the hippy scale.

maine is 94% trees...you cant swing a cat around without hitting a tree

ample growing grounds,,,for cannabis


if we had a warmer climate we would be the hippie mecca

[TheKezarWoodsman]

So are these hippies heavy all over, or is it condesnesed more to the southern region? I always pictured northern maines population being more like Northern Maine Land Man, from here on the forum.