11-11-2019, 08:48 AM
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go on groupon and theres tons of hotels for $40-50 after resort fees $500-600 a week
11-11-2019, 11:02 PM
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You can get a room for far less than $500/night. I just checked. When they opened or certain parts of the year? Yeah maybe it will get up that high but you are pretty far off. If you can show me how to get to Vegas for 2 people for less than $266/night next week I will definitely book it.
Have you even searched? Vegas is cheap! They make money on gambling/alcohol/food/entertainment, not hotels. People get free room comps all the time.
11-12-2019, 05:31 AM
Location: The Moon
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Have you even searched? Vegas is cheap! They make money on gambling/alcohol/food/entertainment, not hotels. People get free room comps all the time.
Yeah I did, couldn't find a 3 to 5ish day trip at a similar quality place for anywhere near the same price. Although I didn't search across the entire year, only dates I happened to find convenient.
And to be getting rooms comped you'd have to factor in quite a bit of gambling which would drastically increase your overall cost. And that would be true of Encore as well wouldn't it? I don't gamble enough to have been offered anything like that, and would prefer the 15min drive over carrying a backpack on Spirit.
11-18-2019, 11:47 AM
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11-22-2019, 07:31 AM
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Encore dropped its $50 minimums permanently. They're now $15. They've drastically departed form their initial vision of bringing Vegas to Boston.
https://www.masslive.com/casinos/201...d-parking.html
"Encore Boston Harbor killed its $50 table game minimums and parking fees as it seeks to draw crowds beyond the high rollers.
The $2.6 billion Everett resort casino now offers $15 table game minimums and dropped its parking fees for self parking. The company also plans to roll out a tiered card system to offer rewards for a variety of players, said Brian Gullbrants, Encore’s new president.
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The last thing we want to do is be a Vegas casino in Boston. We want to be a Boston casino in Boston," Gullbrants told the Massachusetts Gaming Commission Thursday morning. “We want to be Greater Boston’s hometown casino . And we want everyone to come and feel welcome and like they can have a great time there, whether they are playing or not playing.”
Add to this the $100-$140 room rates that are the new norm for them and I think Wynn sells in a few short years.The headline to this article is "We we're wrong"
“We thought we could charge for parking here in Boston, and we were wrong,” he said. “We have now made self-parking free for all guests, 24/7. We thought we could charge for some of the transportation like boats and premiums buses. We were wrong.”
https://www.google.com/search?q=enco...hrome&ie=UTF-8
^$110 seems to be the starting rate
11-22-2019, 07:46 AM
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For campirison,the slightly wealthier Washington DC Metro Area built a 1.2 billion dollar Casino called MGM National Harbor in 2016-its about 3 miles outside of DC proper.came with free parking and lower minimums right out of the gate. It built up a very loyal local customer base that has just as much money and education as Boston. Encore just shot wayyy wayyy too high.
11-22-2019, 09:21 AM
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For campirison,the slightly wealthier Washington DC Metro Area built a 1.2 billion dollar Casino called MGM National Harbor in 2016-its about 3 miles outside of DC proper.revenue is about 15-20% higher than Encore even as its 3 years old. Why?Because it came with free parking and lower minimums right out of the gate. It built up a very loyal local customer base that has just as much money and education as Boston. Encore just shot wayyy wayyy too high.
What were the initial opening figures for MGM National Harbor vs. Encore? While I get that there's a real urge among some here to kill Encore and say "hahah told ya so!", it's
really unfair to compare an established operation to one that's still less than 6 months old. I'd wager MGM National Harbor, which by the way, is far less transit accessible than Encore, didn't knock everything out of the park on day one. No reason to expect Encore to get everything right either. Luxury coaches and motor yachts are hyper expensive to operate. Things like that are the first to go when making adjustments. Room rates aren't surprising either. $110 per night during one of the slowest weeks of the year (Thanksgiving Week) for New England businesses is reasonable (MGM National Harbor is under $200 for the nights I checked next week too). Check other dates and the lowest rates (midweek in December) are around $200. Weekend Rates from $350+. It's not a "cheap" experience by any stretch and this place in this market will still have a major high end component, even if it's going to take some time to find the right balance.
11-22-2019, 09:47 AM
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https://www.wcvb.com/article/5-inves...arbor/29877238
Crime on the rise in Everett since the casino opening. 160 arrests at the casino alone.
A level two sex offender charged with “up-skirting” for taking videos of a woman on the casino floor as she was bending over at a roulette table
-- Close to 20 arrests on drug charges, including one case of trafficking crystal methamphetamine
-- An irate man who was asked to leave the casino and then threatened to shoot and kill police
-- An unattended bag left on the casino floor that contained a loaded handgun
-- Fights involving people with lengthy and violent criminal histories, including assaults with firearms
“I'm not surprised. I'm not. We anticipated there'd be some issues,” said Gayle Cameron, who sits on the Massachusetts Gaming Commission. She used to oversee casino crime investigations in Atlantic City as part of the New Jersey State Police.
“Yes, there is some criminal activity, and the bigger issue is around some drunk and disorderly behavior,” she said.
MGM national Harbor made 42 million its first three weeks open which is the best I could find, extrapolated to about 55 million its first month.
It regularly gets 58-62 million in revenue now. And for less than half the cost of what it took to build Encore... Last month Encore brought in 49 million dollars.
I want the casino to succeed but I also want it to be affordable to regular people.
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11-22-2019, 10:01 AM
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https://www.wcvb.com/article/5-inves...arbor/29877238
Crime on the rise in Everett since the casino opening. 160 arrests at the casino alone.
A level two sex offender charged with “up-skirting” for taking videos of a woman on the casino floor as she was bending over at a roulette table
-- Close to 20 arrests on drug charges, including one case of trafficking crystal methamphetamine
-- An irate man who was asked to leave the casino and then threatened to shoot and kill police
-- An unattended bag left on the casino floor that contained a loaded handgun
-- Fights involving people with lengthy and violent criminal histories, including assaults with firearms
“I'm not surprised. I'm not. We anticipated there'd be some issues,” said Gayle Cameron, who sits on the Massachusetts Gaming Commission. She used to oversee casino crime investigations in Atlantic City as part of the New Jersey State Police.
“Yes, there is some criminal activity, and the bigger issue is around some drunk and disorderly behavior,” she said.
MGM national Harbor made 42 million its first three weeks open which is the best I could find, extrapolated to about 55 million its first month.
It regularly gets 58-62 million in revenue now. And for less than half the cost of what it took to build Encore... Lats month Encore brought in 49 million dollars.
I want the casino to succeed but I also want it to be affordable to regular people.
I think the major problem with Encore is they miscalculated demand. I think they saw that X amount of people drive from Greater Boston to Mohegan Sun/Foxwoods. We can cut their market without realizing the nature of those trips.
A lot of them are not “let’s go gamble”. It’s “let’s get out of town for the weekend” and then they choose Mohegan Sun because Tracy has bad knees and can’t ski. Having a Casino in Everett doesn’t do anything for the Weekend getaway crowd because the whole point of the trip is to leave.
11-22-2019, 10:05 AM
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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I think the major problem with Encore is they miscalculated demand. I think they saw that X amount of people drive from Greater Boston to Mohegan Sun/Foxwoods. We can cut their market without realizing the nature of those trips.
I don't know many people interested in gambling at all. Just not my crowd. Silly waste of money. But the few that went to the places in CT for weekends were mostly doing it around the concerts. I have no interest in Encore at all, even curiosity, but I could see myself there if the right music act came through (which for me would be a throwback 80s group I didn't get to see for some reason).
You would think though their market research couldn't be that out of whack. This is pretty high stakes stuff.
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People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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