Gov Declares "State of Emergency" for Migrant Crisis (to move, title)

[BOS2IAD]

Originally Posted by BruinsGirl

Again… what would’ve happened if they were not put in hotels?
Will Logan look like airport for homeless? ERs?

I understand what southern states are doing. They are trying to make democratic states and cities to put pressures on Biden. Or just create a situation where population just votes republican.

This is a dangerous precedent.

And it's not "a dangerous precedent" when dems are flooding the country with so-called "migrants" in the hope that they're creating a situation where the population "just votes democrat"?

It's good to see the blue states putting "pressure on Biden"

[BOS2IAD]

Originally Posted by Hollytree

Contrary to Fox News, Biden has been trying to help the situation at the border but he is constantly shot down by the legislature. He even tried to continue some Trump policies. When he tried to pass the bill about migrants seeking asylum first at the first country they came to, the ACLU shot it down. [/b]

You need to look more closely at special interest groups and the fact that immigrants provide cheap labor. This is a legislative issue that has been going on for decades.

Read this: https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/21/polit...ion/index.html

It was Republicans who shot down 25 billion in border security because they wouldn't vote for DACA. Stalemate after stalemate and zero compromise.

Read this: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...ion-framework/

Per the bolded---Wrong. Biden hasn't done a darn thing regarding "the situation at the border". He stopped construction on the wall, he killed title 42 and had a border gate on the AZ border welded open. If anything, he is making things worse by allowing thousands of so-called "migrants" to just pour into the country.

The republicans recently passed a bill in the house to fix this mess. However, Schumer refuses to bring it to the senate for a vote.

As for DACA, Trump offered to amnesty the DACAs in exchange for completion of the wall. The dems turned him down. Yet the DACAs don't get it. They still think the dems are on their side.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by CaseyB

The ACLU is a private organization and has no authority over US laws.

Asylum seekers are to apply in the 1st safe country they reach, that is international policy and it is not being followed by the administration.

^This is not correct. Post Title 42 expiration, migrants are expected to do exactly that and expelled if they do not.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...policy-tougher

His (Biden's) administration on Friday started implementing a rule barring migrants from asylum if they don’t request refugee status in another country before entering the US.

[Craziaskowboi]

Ellis Island processed about 12,000,000 immigrants from 1892-1954, for an average of about 200,000 per year. More people are crossing the Mexican border per month than Ellis Island processed per year, and people don't think it's a problem? The population of the U.S. has tripled in the last 100 years, so even after adjusting for population, the flow across the Mexican border is still larger than the flow through Ellis Island by a factor of four. It's insane, it's unsustainable, and it's no surprise that the people who think there's nothing wrong with it are the ones who are farthest removed from the problem, geographically and socioeconomically.

[BruinsGirl]

Originally Posted by BOS2IAD

And it's not "a dangerous precedent" when dems are flooding the country with so-called "migrants" in the hope that they're creating a situation where the population "just votes democrat"?

It's good to see the blue states putting "pressure on Biden"

Why would population vote democrats just because country is flooded with migrants? Can you give one reason?
To vote you need to be a citizen. Not just have permanent residency (to get it even for people who have a chance for political asylum takes many years) , but to be a citizen. And then there are no guarantee they will vote Democrats.

I know many refugees who since getting voting rights vote strictly republican.

Look, I’m completely against this situation, but to think Democrats created this on purpose is beyond weird.

If anything … republicans will be beneficiaries of this in coming elections. They are not deporting illegals, but sending them here on purpose so people here vote republican.

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by Craziaskowboi

Ellis Island processed about 12,000,000 immigrants from 1892-1954, for an average of about 200,000 per year. More people are crossing the Mexican border per month than Ellis Island processed per year, and people don't think it's a problem? The population of the U.S. has tripled in the last 100 years, so even after adjusting for population, the flow across the Mexican border is still larger than the flow through Ellis Island by a factor of four. It's insane, it's unsustainable, and it's no surprise that the people who think there's nothing wrong with it are the ones who are farthest removed from the problem, geographically and socioeconomically.

That is scary.

[BruinsGirl]

Situation in New York

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...ivals-00117500

NYC shelters set to dump thousands of migrants to discourage new arrivals

NEW YORK — The migrant crisis is getting so hard for New York City to handle that Mayor Eric Adams sees a policy that could send thousands of people into the streets, many with nowhere to sleep and nowhere to work, as his next best move.

It’s the latest in a series of increasingly desperate attempts by the Democratic mayor to stem the influx of asylum-seekers — a situation some in City Hall think has been fueled in part by a decades-old mandate for the city to provide shelter to anyone in need and for as long as they need it.

With more than 60,000 migrants in the city’s care, Adams has decided to stop sheltering single adults after two months, and thousands will start being evicted this Saturday.

The decision was made, in part, out of concerns that New York’s shelter guarantee was becoming a magnet for migrants, according to two people familiar with City Hall’s thinking.

“The sense is that people didn’t fully understand just how accommodating New York City was to migrants until now, from a lot of these areas, and now it’s a big reason that people are coming here,” said one of the people, who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “But if the understanding is you’re not guaranteed a place to stay, that affects the flow.”

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul — who has been at odds with the mayor over how to respond to the situation — is also echoing that concern.

“Never was it envisioned that this would be an unlimited universal right or obligation on the city to have to house literally [the] entire world,” Hochul told reporters on Wednesday. “We want to make sure that no families end up on the streets. We don’t want anything to happen to our children, but we also have to let the world know that there have to be limits to this.”

The move by Adams marks a critical new moment in the year-long immigration crisis in New York, where the arrival of more than 100,000 migrants since spring 2022 has stretched the shelters beyond their capacity and forced the city to house people in tents.

Now, with many about to face the end of their stays, migrants will be thrust into one of the most expensive places in the world.

What they’ll find is a city of extremes — where even the middle class can struggle to make ends meet, where the median rent is a record $4,400 a month in Manhattan, where scarce apartments can prompt fierce bidding wars and where billionaires spend tens, even hundreds, of millions of dollars on glitzy second homes high atop the skyline.

Housing and immigrant advocates say many of the migrants evicted from shelters will have no choice but to sleep on the street.

Directives like this that are not fully thought-out and are entirely short-sighted will have really dangerous, harmful repercussions, including street homelessness,” said Council Member Shahana Hanif, chair of the body’s immigration committee.

The problem illustrates the intersection of two of the most pressing crises facing New York: The flood of migrants that has strained the city’s budget and social services and a decades-in-the-making housing shortage that has driven up the cost of living to stunning new heights.

New York has for centuries been a haven for immigrants fleeing persecution, political instability and economic hardship.

Critics say the 60-day shelter limit flies in the face of that ethos and violates the long-time mandate that the city provide a bed to anyone in need, which dates back to 1981. The city has handed out more than 10,800 60-day notices so far. Meanwhile, the administration wrote to a judge in May seeking to suspend the “right to shelter” amid the migrant influx; those discussions are ongoing in court.

“The simple fact is that the right to shelter is what prevents New York City — and the entire surrounding region — from seeing the mass tent encampments now common in many other American cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco,” the Legal Aid Society and the Coalition for the Homeless, advocacy groups who serve in a watchdog role over the shelter mandate, said in a statement Thursday.

But pushing people out of shelters — potentially creating images of hundreds or even thousands of people sleeping outdoors — might help emphasize a point Adams has repeated for months: The city’s capacity for new arrivals is already far past its breaking point and requires more state and federal help.

Adams has pleaded for more help from President Joe Biden and Hochul, criticizing both publicly in a departure from his previously close relationship with the fellow Democrats.

Some help came late Wednesday: the Biden administration agreed to extend temporary protection status to migrants from Venezuela. But Adams said Thursday it would affect less than 10,000 out of the roughly 60,000 migrants in the city’s care. There are hundreds more arriving each day, officials say.

We cannot continue to be left nearly entirely alone to solve a national crisis that the state and federal governments have refused to take meaningful action on,” City Hall spokesperson Kayla Mamelak said in a statement, noting the administration has opened 200 emergency shelters and spent more than $2 billion on the crisis to date.

Late Friday, Adams announced he would further restrict shelter stays for new arrivals to just 30 days. Additionally, if migrants who have hit the 60-day mark are unable to find other accommodations and return to the intake center, they will face a 30-day limit on their new shelter placements, paired with intensified casework services, his office said in a statement.

Families with children are exempt from the policy, though the city has considered expanding it to that population, one person with knowledge of the discussions said.

Adams has sought to limit the number of people coming to New York in more explicit ways. The city earlier this year printed flyers to hand out at the southern border discouraging migrants from coming to New York — citing, in part, the high cost of living.

“Let me be clear: We do not want anyone sleeping on our streets,” Zachary Iscol, Adams’ emergency management commissioner, said at a City Council hearing last month. “We should not underestimate the abilities, the resourcefulness, the agency of the people in our care.”

Do you think they want voters?

It’s a crisis.

Btw New York is sending buses to Massachusetts too.

[CaseyB]

Originally Posted by BruinsGirl

Situation in New York

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...ivals-00117500





Btw New York is sending buses to Massachusetts too.

I knew they would eventually try something like that.

[BruinsGirl]

The facts behind the Republican effort to send migrants to Democratic-led cities

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by BruinsGirl

Why would population vote democrats just because country is flooded with migrants? Can you give one reason?
To vote you need to be a citizen. Not just have permanent residency (to get it even for people who have a chance for political asylum takes many years) , but to be a citizen. And then there are no guarantee they will vote Democrats.

I know many refugees who since getting voting rights vote strictly republican.

Look, I’m completely against this situation, but to think Democrats created this on purpose is beyond weird.

If anything … republicans will be beneficiaries of this in coming elections. They are not deporting illegals, but sending them here on purpose so people here vote republican.

^Voice of reason...very welcome here!