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Old 07-20-2022, 01:18 PM
 
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Has anyone ever heard of this? She told me she can’t control herself when she gets manic.

I’ve never heard that being bi polar and having a “manic” episode makes you cheat. That seems like an excuse

Maybe your sex drive increases during a manic episode but does that mean you have no control over your hormones and have to sleep with different people?

That sounds ridiculous to me.
It is fairly common behavior in a bipolar person. If properly medicated, that shouldn't be happening.
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:20 PM
 
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Bottom line, if you're looking for something with no strings attached try to be around her when she's in her manic phase. If you're looking for commitment, look elsewhere.
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:20 PM
 
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Hypersexuality often coincides with a manic phase, it's the in-the-moment overwhelming need for sexual satisfaction and gratification. For some folks, it's masturbation, excessive pornography engagement, and some the physical act. They are not concerned with potential consequences during the manic phase, which includes promiscuity and infidelity.
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:23 PM
 
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Are you sure you want to date this person?

First there is a range of behaviors with people who are bipolar. There are people who are bipolar who are pretty high functioning and they aren't experiencing these types of sexual symptoms. The higher functioning people are more likely to hold down jobs and just manage their life better. Clinically bipoar disorder is a mood disorder. When the person is having a manic episode they are becoming emotionally dysregulated. What that means is that the have trouble managing their feelings. When they experience strong feelings, they often don't handle that well. Hypersexuality can be one of the symptoms of the disease, because here they aren't managing sexual feelings well. My brother who is bipolar-schizoaffective has hypersexuality. How that manifests itself is that he will often want to get naked in inappropriate place like out in public or in Church. He also sexuality propositioned pretty much all of the women he encountered including my then fiancée and the wives, daughters and girlfriends of most of his friends. I wouldn't say that he was an actual rape threat, he was acting more like someone who was really drunk and could really be talked in or out of anything, but he had no filter. He has on multiple occassions end up going to strip clubs and spending money that should have been for rent on strippers, booze and sex. When Charlie Sheen was rambling about having tigerblood and dating all of the porn stars, that was full blown mania with hypersexuality and when Britney Spears was shaving her head and intententionally showing her cooch to everyone, that too was mania with hypersexuality. Also when you go to a protest and see women just starting to take off all their clothes, that again is going to be generally the bipolar women with hypersexuality.

I have been to the Nami family to family meetings, a support group for family members of people who have a family member who is bipolar. When women who are bipolar have hypersexuality, they often will end up having sex with a lot of men because a lot of guys will agree to have sex to a woman who sexually propositions them. Guys rationalize there behavior here saying that it is concentual. But for the women involved they often regret their behavior afterward. There is also a real high rate of previous sexual assault among women who are bipolar, so if you do date this woman, you are likely dating someone with a fair amount of PTSD.
Wow I had no idea the levels of it.

No I have no plans dating someone like that.

I wonder if most people in the porn industry have that since it’s not a normal profession

Though I imagine child sexual abuse is a huge reason for a lot of people getting in that industry which probably also causes hyper sexuality
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Old 07-20-2022, 01:44 PM
 
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A few years ago there was a teacher arrested, in Florida, I think, for having sex with an underage student. It came out later that she was diagnosed as bipolar. She was being treated and serving her sentence at home wearing an ankle bracelet.

She was having sex with the teenager in the back seat of a car while his friend drove on the highway. She didn't think about it, she just did it while in a manic phase.

The problem with bipolar people who aren't treated is that they think the manic phase is being "normal" and just the depressed part is bad because being manic feels so good.
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Old 07-20-2022, 03:43 PM
 
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Wow I had no idea the levels of it.

No I have no plans dating someone like that.

I wonder if most people in the porn industry have that since it’s not a normal profession

Though I imagine child sexual abuse is a huge reason for a lot of people getting in that industry which probably also causes hyper sexuality

There is a difference between sex work and hypersexuality. Sex work is much more of a conscious volitional choice. There are people who if you offer to pay them x amount of dollars they might agree to agree to engage in some sexual act with you. This is different. This was more like they got really drunk and the way you might be able to ask a really drunk woman to have sex with you, a bipolar indivual who is sexually dysregulated might also agree to have sex with you or they themselves might suggest having sex with you. Like someone who is really drunk, somone who is manic is feeling really good. The problem is that this can happen to them without drinking alcohol not taking any drugs.

But their judgment is really impaired. If they do decide to take drugs or drink (and many of them do - search for dual diagnosis) then their judgment is even worse. When my brother wasn't manic, he would never sexually proposition my fiancee, nor his friend's wives, girlfriends and daughters. It is just extreme dysregulation where his judgment is really really off. This is a situation where he needed to be in a psych hospital.

But there are different degrees of bipolar disorder. Some people are very high functioning. The meds work very welll for them, they can hold down jobs and often they have no hypersexuality or very minor sexual dyregulation. Their judgment about men and when to have sex might be a little off. But hypersexuality can be on a spectrum itself.

There is also a related disease that is akin to bipolar but less severe, called cyclothymia. These people cycle less and their symptoms are much less severe. But these are more categories, in practice people are displaying symptoms on a spectrum with people who have the more acute form of the disease having stronger and more frequent symptoms.

But if a swoman is telling you that she is hypersexual, she is not lying about that. She is likely telling you about this because it caused big problems in her past relationships.
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Old 07-25-2022, 02:02 PM
 
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I can't answer to if it's a valid (so-called) excuse, as that's a decision between the couple in-question. Not that the guy would likely find out unless paying attention. Personally I wouldn't tolerate it, as the hypothetical boyfriend or spouse. Excuses notwithstanding. That's my frame as a dude.

Absent additional information wouldn't go so far as to say "ridiculous" but will definitely stick with, "Regardless, I wouldn't stand for it and end the relationship." She'd move to plate status at-best from that point forward. If she wants to form stable relationships in the future I gather that might be a challenge until and if in treatment or remission (if that is possible: I'm not a mental health professional). That's an important contextual word.

I've been in stages of my life where I've (engaged in congress with) any willing female participant. None involved relationships per se as I had my own rough code I followed: consent must = 'yes', relationship = 'no', what happens between consenting adults = no one else's business.
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Old 07-25-2022, 09:40 PM
 
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Has anyone ever heard of this? She told me she can’t control herself when she gets manic.

I’ve never heard that being bi polar and having a “manic” episode makes you cheat. That seems like an excuse

Maybe your sex drive increases during a manic episode but does that mean you have no control over your hormones and have to sleep with different people?

That sounds ridiculous to me.
OK, you opened the door!

Have I heard of it? Yeah, it's called hyper-sexuality and I used to do it myself! If we could control it we wouldn't be bi-polar. It depends on a puff of wind as to whether a B-P will act out sexually, or with rage, or drink and do drugs, have grandiose ideas, end up in a strange town and not know how they got there, and talk incessantly or ....... many things. In some severe episodes of mania, we can stay up for days and nights on end, our minds going so fast we are whirling around on a carousel that can't stop. We tend to self-medicate with sedative drugs like alcohol and benzos and weed , then quite often move on to other stronger drugs all just calm down and feel "normal". When the brain finally decides to calm down, then comes the crash and usually right into the depression.The emotions normal people have, multiply that by at least 10 X for a B-P.

Bi-polar is a serious mental disease of severe mood swings and no control over it. It ranks right next to schizophrenia in severity. We have to take a cocktail of medication to dampen the mood swings; anti-psychotics, anti-depressant, mood stabilizers are part.
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Old 07-25-2022, 09:41 PM
 
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A few years ago there was a teacher arrested, in Florida, I think, for having sex with an underage student. It came out later that she was diagnosed as bipolar. She was being treated and serving her sentence at home wearing an ankle bracelet.

She was having sex with the teenager in the back seat of a car while his friend drove on the highway. She didn't think about it, she just did it while in a manic phase.

The problem with bipolar people who aren't treated is that they think the manic phase is being "normal" and just the depressed part is bad because being manic feels so good.

You are so right !
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