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Old 02-18-2008, 10:09 AM
 
Location: state of enlightenment
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NationMaster - Murders (per capita) (most recent) by country

Mexico is #6 in the world. Just for reference Colombia is #1, US is #24, Canada #44, New Zealand #52, Qatar# 62.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:27 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Interestingly enough, in the Total Crimes per capita category it's the US:

NationMaster - Total crimes (per capita) (most recent) by country (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri_percap-crime-total-crimes-per-capita - broken link)

US - #8
Canada - #12
Mexico - #39

Ken
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:04 AM
 
Location: California
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If it's #6 I wouldn't call it the "murder capital".

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NationMaster - Assaults (most recent) by country

U.S is #1 in Assaults

And Mexico having drug problems? Ours are worse.

NationMaster - Drug offences (most recent) by country

#4 in drug offences, Mexico #27
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:07 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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If it's #6 I wouldn't call it the "murder capital".
FYI -

Take note of the title of the thread and you'll note that the OP calls Mexico the "Murder Capital of NORTH AMERICA" (caps are mine) - which the statistics indicate it is - just as the same website's statistics indicate that the US is the overall "CRIME Capital of North America".

Ken
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Old 02-18-2008, 02:43 PM
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Location: Toronto
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Sure, all thse people in the US running around with guns, and not even being members of a well-regulated militia.
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Old 02-18-2008, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Mexican crime is underreported.
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Old 02-23-2008, 02:02 PM
 
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Mexican crime is underreported.

That's what a lot of people from Mexico say. They say that in Mexico, in many places, people don't bother going to the police before for one if they are poor the police won't help them, and for another, the police might actually be involved in the crime or with the criminals.

Even very serious crimes like kidnapping for ransom doesn't get reported and domestic abuse laws are non existent for many. Same goes for rape -- if a wealthy man rapes a poor woman -- no one cares.
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Old 02-23-2008, 02:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ProLogic View Post
If it's #6 I wouldn't call it the "murder capital".

Check this out:

NationMaster - Assaults (most recent) by country

U.S is #1 in Assaults

And Mexico having drug problems? Ours are worse.

NationMaster - Drug offences (most recent) by country

#4 in drug offences, Mexico #27

If they USA is so much worse in everyway than Mexico -- then why are you in the USA? Why would your family have left Mexico?

At least be honest -- Americans are not filling boxcars trying to leave their country and not too many Americans died crossing the Mexican border. Ignoring the problems of Mexico -- such as over 600 people fleeing their own homeland will not make the problems go a way.
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:49 AM
 
Location: The world, where will fate take me this time?
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That's what a lot of people from Mexico say. They say that in Mexico, in many places, people don't bother going to the police before for one if they are poor the police won't help them, and for another, the police might actually be involved in the crime or with the criminals.

Even very serious crimes like kidnapping for ransom doesn't get reported and domestic abuse laws are non existent for many. Same goes for rape -- if a wealthy man rapes a poor woman -- no one cares.
I have to be honest with you friend, and help your ignorance be burnt, it is true that mexico has many problems, but your idea of the country is totally wrong.

Also, if you want to speak bad of Mexico, ok, but get informed first, work on destroying your ignorance so you can make good observations, and if you are going to speak bad of others, you should start with yourself first.

What can you say about the united states of America? I could say many things, but I come here to make friends, to create constructive dialogues, not to bash other countries, but if we research thoroughly, every one has a weak spot.
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Old 02-26-2008, 01:10 AM
 
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I have to be honest with you friend, and help your ignorance be burnt, it is true that mexico has many problems, but your idea of the country is totally wrong.

Also, if you want to speak bad of Mexico, ok, but get informed first, work on destroying your ignorance so you can make good observations, and if you are going to speak bad of others, you should start with yourself first.

What can you say about the united states of America? I could say many things, but I come here to make friends, to create constructive dialogues, not to bash other countries, but if we research thoroughly, every one has a weak spot.
I live right on the border -- I can look out my window right now and see Mexico -- and all my neighbors are Mexican refugees. I see hard working people who say they could not get ahead in Mexico but they can here. Over 600 people dying every year speaks volumes. Sure some people living in places like the Zona Rosa live very very well -- and they don't see the people making the lonely trek through the hot desert -- their own fellow citizens -- and they don't care.

I realize that many leaving come here for the welfare offered here -- there is a lot of that here -- but it's also the hardest working people of Mexico leaving. And middle class who will come right out and say they couldn't not make an honest living there because of the corruption. And I know of families broken up -- wage earner in the USA -- and in my mind a remittance father isn't very good -- children need their fathers home helping to raise them -- of course the Mexican government wants the remittance money flowing in -- but what that does to families will harm your society forever.

I think it's shameful the way all prosperity comes to a screeching halt when you reach the Rio Grande (or Rio Bravo if you will) and that such a wealthy nation blessed with many natural resources offers so little to so many of it's people. And yes -- I also see the wealthy shoppers from Mexico in their brand new SUV's and expensive clothes.

Ignoring the problems isn't going to make them go away -- and there is no comparison because those boxcars sitting in scorching deserts aren't filled with Americans trying to escape their fate in their country. And it's not Americans dying in the sewers and canals trying to flee the USA.

The Mexican presidents can brag all day long about how well the well-off of Mexico are doing -- but here in the USA, we see the other side.
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