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Diego - if you were born in China, because your parents moved to China years ago, would that make you Chinese?
The place you were born does not determine your Nationality. It is your genealogy - your ancestry. So being born in Mexico does not make you Mexican. It makes you a Mexican born European.
Just like all white Americans. They are not true Americans. They are Europeans born in a land stolen by their ancestors.
I really like that the poster brought up that the ruling bodies of Mexico are Europeans. If you look at them, they do not look like everyone else. Because they are not.
This is why the TRUE Mexicans stay poor.
And YES - the TRUE Mexicans ARE Native Americans.
Mexico has alot of Native-Americans but your definition of a "true" Mexican sucks. You cant conveniently seperate the impact that White-Spaniards have had on Mexico and say they are not Mexicans. Without their influence modern Mexico would not be what it is today.
And the same goes for America but even more so. Who drew up the borders and founded the cities we live in today ? White Americans. Who wrote the constitution ? White Americans, you can call it stolen land all you want but you cant deny that a White American is a American. Thats just ridiculous.
For example a lot of people that have white skin and blue eyes discrimate other people of darker skin, despite they have indian features as the shape of their brain, por example.
If you are mestizo or an indian and you become rich, you are of the high economical class, but no high class in society.
I could say that only mestizos and white latinos can be called hispanics, more adecuatte for white latinos.
For example a lot of people that have white skin and blue eyes discrimate other people of darker skin, despite they have indian features as the shape of their brain, por example.
If you are mestizo or an indian and you become rich, you are of the high economical class, but no high class in society.
I could say that only mestizos and white latinos can be called hispanics, more adecuatte for white latinos.
But one of your only Indian presidents ended up going into exile in Spain.
Sooo....can I claim "Native American" whenever prompted 'cause, well, it's in my blood? Are Native Americans north of the border who bred with Euros/Americans mestizos as well? I read something that it's a stigma in the Americas and that's why "hispanics" live in a state of ignorance when it comes to their roots (as in ALL THE WAY BACK). I'mma go look for the source and post it here.
Wow! I like where you are going with this. My family has been in the New Mexico region for 100's of years. In fact, if you recall you history, Mexico went all the way up to Washington State. There is a group of Islands in Washington called the San Juan Island and one of them is called Lopez island.
Maybe it could be that a lot of the Hispanic people that lived in those regions we/are actually Native Americans. If this is the case, this would categorize you as a Native American if your family has lived in those areas for generations that was once called Mexico.
My family has lived in the New Mexico area before it became a state. Back then, my familiy owned a lot of land. But those lands were taken away for the family just like the Apache's and the Navajo's when the territory became a state.
If this is the case....I guys I can put up a casino right next to my house!
Now on a serious note, Native Americans are Indians that have lived in those areas for 1000's of years. The the Spanish came in and took their land away, just like the Anglos can in and took the land from the Spanish/Mexicans. The true Natives Mexicans are probably the Aztec and Mayan people. Those are really the true Native Mexicans. The rest of all of the Mexican's have mixed with Spanish descent. That is really the difference between Native Americans and Mexican Americans.
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Unless you have records of your family dating back hundreds of years and none of which married a Mestizo (speaking in terms of racially mixed individual not culturally and mestizos can look differently depending on which ancestry is more prominent in their genes) or a predominantly indigenous individual than how can anyone say they have 0% Native blood? Skin color is not enough to determine this considering how Angelina Jolie looks completely white yet she has some Native American blood in her.
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The same can be said of Americans. Most real Texans are mestizos, I'm referring to those living there before the incorporation, they married Mexican families to save land grants. Most Americans that have been in the Continental US since the 15th and 16th Century and lived in the frontier (almost the entire country) are mestizos. You see, there were no white women back then, women travelled bad and died and women hated frontier life, there were so few white women that they rather stayed in cities and married rich guys... a poor woman from England could travel to the US and marry a rich person (if she survived).
So, people in the frontier, those people making America, had no qualms marrying Indian women or Mexican or Californio women in the west. As the Spanish saying goes "la jodienda no tiene enmienda" (there's no way to quench the sexual thirst).
Racial prejudices concerning marriage and race started quite late in the US, it all started during the 1820's. In fact, the US was less prejudiced that Spanish America back in those times.
Those are really the true Native Mexicans. The rest of all of the Mexican's have mixed with Spanish descent. That is really the difference between Native Americans and Mexican Americans.
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No true. There are pure Indians in Mexico living in reservations and there are many. In Mexico they have a Bureau of Indian Affairs.
I likely have 0% indian blood, so I'm European (mostly Spanish and Italian), just like many Americans.
Nothing wrong with having A drop of indigena blood in you! You have anything about the long gone past? Have you lived in the American Continent at any time? Have relatives who lived in the Spanish-speaking countries? Catholic now or at any time? HUMANITY is what counts. HISTORY involved ALLof US. We do have native-Americans' blood in us. Why deny it?
Again, when did I say it was a bad thing? It just doesn't apply to me. If HUMANITY is what matters, why do you guys care so much that I have no indian blood. If HUMANITY is what matters, it shouldn't matter whether I have or don't have indian blood. I'm a human being as well.
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