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Old 02-05-2011, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Houston, Alaska
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I spent almost 15 years in the military, just over 9 in the Army and the rest in the Guards. I joined the Guards while still in high school, then when I finished trade school, joined the Army. I got out of the Army in 93 and then after 9/11 I joined the local Guards and went to Iraq for a year in 2004-2005. During this last time, I hurt my back and have been seeing a couple different chiropractors though the last few years. A friend of mine told me of this Chiropractor in Lake Stevens, Washington, so I called them up and scheduled an appointment. On my first visit, I told the doc that lately I have also been having trouble with my feet. I was standing there and I shifted my weight to the inside of my feet to relieve some pressure from the bottom. He just happened to look down at that time and said "You have flat feet. See the military is taking anyone now a days, because they can't get anyone to join who........" I didn't catch the last part of what he said because he stopped or kind of went to a whisper. But then he looks up to me smiling and is almost laughing, like to say, I got you good didn't I. This type of statements is nothing new, I've heard similar statements many times around the west side of the state of Washington, but I'm not going to pay someone, to hear crap like this about our military men and women. Needless to say, I canceled my next appointment and will not be using his services. I still have friends who are in the military as well as relatives.

Just wanted to share my experience with this guy.

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Old 02-07-2011, 06:01 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Podiatrists are defined as physicians by the U.S. federal government. Podiatry is a branch of medicine devoted to the study, diagnosis, and treatment of disorders of the foot, ankle, and lower leg. I was drafted into the military. I was drafted with flat feet. Flat feet can cause back problems. If you injured you back, then I would think a chiropractor could not do a proper diagnosis, you need to see the appropriate doctors. This site is not the right place for complaints which present defamation issues. If you served in the military and injured you back due to your service you need to get the appropriate medical attention, and I would not start with a chiropractor. Getting proper medical attention can be frustrating, it may take time, hang in there and get the proper treatment.


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Old 12-06-2011, 02:06 PM
 
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In response to Poncho_NM comment: I would like to know what your qualifications and credentials are to make a statement like "injured your back due to your service you need to get the appropriate medical attention, and I would not start with a chiropractor" and "If you injured you back, then I would think a chiropractor could not do a proper diagnosis, you need to see the appropriate doctors"? As a chiropractic doctor, I have two college degrees, both with honors with them being in biomedical science, along with my doctorate degree in chiropractic. I AM listed as a physician and my training and classes consisted of anatomy, cell physiology, pathology, micorobiology, embryology, neuroanatomy, differential diagnosis, etc... Too many to list! Many studies have been done that show MD's have a subpar knowledge of the neuromusculoskeletal system compared to Chiropractic doctors, especially since that is our specialty. Actually, an exam made up by orthopedic MD's was administered to other MD's that were starting their orthopedic residency and about 70 percent FAILED!! The same exam was given to Chiropractic STUDENTS, again I say STUDENTS, that weren't even graduated yet, and 80 percent of them passed. It's comments like these that the everyday average american reads and doesn't know any better but to assume it is correct and accurate information when in fact it is just an uneducated opinion. Please don't post comments before you do a little research. Thank you.
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:34 PM
 
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In response to Poncho_NM comment: I would like to know what your qualifications and credentials are to make a statement like "injured your back due to your service you need to get the appropriate medical attention, and I would not start with a chiropractor" and "If you injured you back, then I would think a chiropractor could not do a proper diagnosis, you need to see the appropriate doctors"? As a chiropractic doctor, I have two college degrees, both with honors with them being in biomedical science, along with my doctorate degree in chiropractic. I AM listed as a physician and my training and classes consisted of anatomy, cell physiology, pathology, micorobiology, embryology, neuroanatomy, differential diagnosis, etc... Too many to list! Many studies have been done that show MD's have a subpar knowledge of the neuromusculoskeletal system compared to Chiropractic doctors, especially since that is our specialty. Actually, an exam made up by orthopedic MD's was administered to other MD's that were starting their orthopedic residency and about 70 percent FAILED!! The same exam was given to Chiropractic STUDENTS, again I say STUDENTS, that weren't even graduated yet, and 80 percent of them passed. It's comments like these that the everyday average american reads and doesn't know any better but to assume it is correct and accurate information when in fact it is just an uneducated opinion. Please don't post comments before you do a little research. Thank you.

I did not trust/believe in Chiropractors for YEARS...

Then, I had a severe neck injury.

Chiropractors made me a believer, and GREATLY improved my condition.

I believe, I believe...


Doctors and the PRACTICE of medicine... not so much.
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Old 12-06-2011, 02:42 PM
 
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I spent almost 15 years in the military, just over 9 in the Army and the rest in the Guards. I joined the Guards while still in high school, then when I finished trade school, joined the Army. I got out of the Army in 93 and then after 9/11 I joined the local Guards and went to Iraq for a year in 2004-2005. During this last time, I hurt my back and have been seeing a couple different chiropractors though the last few years. A friend of mine told me of this Chiropractor in Lake Stevens, Washington, so I called them up and scheduled an appointment. On my first visit, I told the doc that lately I have also been having trouble with my feet. I was standing there and I shifted my weight to the inside of my feet to relieve some pressure from the bottom. He just happened to look down at that time and said "You have flat feet. See the military is taking anyone now a days, because they can't get anyone to join who........" I didn't catch the last part of what he said because he stopped or kind of went to a whisper. But then he looks up to me smiling and is almost laughing, like to say, I got you good didn't I. This type of statements is nothing new, I've heard similar statements many times around the west side of the state of Washington, but I'm not going to pay someone, to hear crap like this about our military men and women. Needless to say, I canceled my next appointment and will not be using his services. I still have friends who are in the military as well as relatives.

Just wanted to share my experience with this guy.
Saw-bones didn't get the memo -- this isn't 2007 anymore. The military is actually kicking people out and being very selective on who it lets in. Don't let the dude's opinion trouble you though, msta. Some people love us, some despise us -- what are you going to do? You can't live your life worrying about what others think.

As a fellow veteran, let me say -- you've got me. I've only been in the Army since 2000, so most Americans I have dealt with have been more than kind and fair toward me. This past decade has been a good one for positive feelings toward the troops. I'm starting to sense the mood changing though. People are starting to be rude or condescending. It's kind of weird for me because I'm just not used to this treatment. But you know what, I don't care.

My time in has taught me that brothers and sisters in arms need to stick together because when the **** hits the fan, we're all we really have. Civvies may say they "support the troops" -- and God bless those who do -- but they don't get it. When I see the sad eyes and slow moving bodies of guys my age (mid 30s -- not old), I get it. They're my brothers, and I hope that they live for many decades to come. I realize the longer they live, the more they will be forgotten. But I won't forget them. And I won't forget the vets from wars before my time, and vets in any wars to come. Anybody who has put their life on the line is going to get a little extra consideration from me.
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