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Kick out the poor people lol. You can't be serious.
I'm interested in your heavily coded language about this segment of population. This is why Mississippi is a bottom feeder.
Dead serious.
Let's put it this way. Mississippi is a bottom feeder for one of two reasons:
1 - A highly unproductive segment of the population, where a high % is on welfare.
OR
2 - "Coded language", which is holding people back.
Which one could it POSSIBLY be? Apparently, people like me are way more powerful than I ever thought possible. It's like I'm God or something, I speak therefore my coded language says, "IT SHALL BE!!".
Stick to NOLA annie, the shining beacon of liberal governing.
I live here ... for now ... on the Coast ... have lived here 6-1/2 years. I don't know about policies, but I know what I like in a city ... whether I'm visiting or living there. We've been up and down the state, and I have yet to see a city that appeals to me. We live in one of the most desirable towns in Mississippi, but I can't for the life of me figure out why. All of these things apply to the Bay St. Louis / Waveland area:
Lack of fun family activities:
Can't swim in the Gulf due to flesh eating bacteria
We get water moccasins in our yard on a regular basis, so playing outside is a risk
Most of the parks/playgrounds are lousy ... we go to the the nicest one over in Pass Christian, Veterans Park
No miniature golf/put-put
Dilapidated and unwelcoming movie theater
No ice cream shops ... only a couple of snowball places. Why is that?
No 4th of July or Memorial Day parades ... just Mardi Gras, which we hate.
Lack of good restaurants ... LaChula is the only one I recommend for families. There are a couple of (non bar atmosphere) restaurants we like for date nights.
Way too many bars and alcohol stores, vape shops, tattoo parlors ... definitely gives off a certain, non family-friendly vibe about our town.
If you don't gamble, drink and party, there's not a lot for people to do here.
Shopping choices are lousy ... both grocery and clothing/housewares. The mall in Biloxi is fine occasionally, but a few local choices for convenience couldn't hurt.
Serious lack of nice (non casino) hotels!
Lack of cohesive vibe in cityscape, needs beautification ... and I don't mean Old Town. BSL is much bigger than that small section.
Unless you're in Old Town, there is ZERO walkability.
We have so many blighted, abandoned, dilapidated buildings and land since Hurricane Katrina just sitting there being an eyesore ... let's bring in business.
Bay St. Louis and the surrounding areas don't have to be world class, but people need a reason to come ... and stay.
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Gulf Coast cities we love and visit often (for comparisons sake):
Destin, FL
Orange Beach, AL
Foley, AL
Fairhope, AL
Malbis /Spanish Fort, AL
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Things we love here:
The new marina
Grammy's Donuts
The library system
Old Town
Walkability on the Gulf/sidewalks and bridge
Tripani's Restaurant (date nights)
La Chula Restaurant (for families)
C&C Italian Bistro (date nights)
Brooklyn's Pizza
Businesses I recommend for Bay St. Louis:
Starbucks
Chick-fil-A
Longhorn Steakhouse
Olive Garden
Panera Bread
Aldi's or Trader Joe's
Whole Foods
Hobby Lobby
Target
Publix
TJ/Maxx
Ross
Comfort Suites
Hilton
Upscale Bed & Breakfasts with good amenities
Dairy Queen, Cold Stone or a REAL old fashioned ice cream parlor
A big, vibrant farmers market (ours is very small)
A big, lush landscape nursery that is open 5-6 days a week (not just randomly)
A large, nice car dealership (Toyota, Nissan, Lexus) instead of 10 small used car lots.
Last edited by SouthernProper; 08-30-2017 at 03:38 PM..
Starbucks
Chick-fil-A
Longhorn Steakhouse
Olive Garden
Panera Bread
Aldi's or Trader Joe's
Whole Foods
Hobby Lobby
Target
Publix
TJ/Maxx
Ross
Comfort Suites
Hilton
Upscale Bed & Breakfasts with good amenities
Dairy Queen, Cold Stone or a REAL old fashioned ice cream parlor
A big, vibrant farmers market (ours is very small)
A big, lush landscape nursery that is open 5-6 days a week (not just randomly)
A large, nice car dealership (Toyota, Nissan, Lexus) instead of 10 small used car lots.
Why don't you get involved on the economic development board, kiwanis, lions club, etc.? I am very similar to you in this aspect, and the problem is that many Mississippians have given up, and like you say, they just want to keep things the way they are because that's what they are used to. I would simply just ask you to do 'something'. In my experience, that is much more rewarding than trying to find a utopia that does not exist.
There have to be people of like mind around that area. Matter of fact, I know there are. And if you do take my advice and get involved, don't listen to the naysayers. Trust me, there are plenty of them on this forum.
Why don't you get involved on the economic development board, kiwanis, lions club, etc.? I am very similar to you in this aspect, and the problem is that many Mississippians have given up, and like you say, they just want to keep things the way they are because that's what they are used to. I would simply just ask you to do 'something'. In my experience, that is much more rewarding than trying to find a utopia that does not exist.
There have to be people of like mind around that area. Matter of fact, I know there are. And if you do take my advice and get involved, don't listen to the naysayers. Trust me, there are plenty of them on this forum.
I wouldn't mind to get involved in a bigger way here, but I'm pretty set on getting out. Just so tired of being a sitting duck waiting for the next hurricane to take us out. Scares me to death. I miss my kids being able to freely swim and play outside without something trying to kill them. I miss 4 distinct seasons. Fireplaces, fire pits.
The bottom line for the Gulf Coast:
If you want HIGH QUALITY tourists (and residents to up the tax base) you've got to give them HIGH QUALITY in return. Follow the money ... Destin and Orange Beach are high class destinations. Gearing your businesses toward the low income and welfare population is going to keep the town at that level.
Our beaches, with their brown water and vibrio bacteria, can't compete with beautiful emerald waters and sugar sand ... so our town needs to be STUNNING to make up for it. Clean up the trash, show community pride, assemble a beautification committee, invite HIGH QUALITY businesses (no more bars and vape shops!), beautiful condo developments, a chic cohesive streetscape (either carrying the Old Town vibe throughout the rest of BSL, or a beach theme and colors.) No more settling for dirty, drab, hodgepodge, cheap and poor looking town, and expecting people to come here to spend their hard earned dollars.
And I haven't even hit on medical care down here. One thing at a time.
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I wouldn't mind to get involved in a bigger way here, but I'm pretty set on getting out. Just so tired of being a sitting duck waiting for the next hurricane to take us out. Scares me to death. I miss my kids being able to freely swim and play outside without something trying to kill them. I miss 4 distinct seasons. Fireplaces, fire pits.
Trust me, I get it. I lived on the Florida coast for a while. Trust me, the storms and critters that worry you in Bay St. Louis certainly take up residence in Florida too.
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Originally Posted by SouthernProper
The bottom line for the Gulf Coast:
If you want HIGH QUALITY tourists (and residents to up the tax base) you've got to give them HIGH QUALITY in return. Follow the money ... Destin and Orange Beach are high class destinations. Gearing your businesses toward the low income and welfare population is going to keep the town at that level.
The MS coast will never be Orange Beach or Destin, they have much cleaner water and sand over there. Natural factors you can't do much about. The MS Coast is doing about as good as it can, tourism wise.
I always thought those issues you talked about (as far as retail, and general economic development) are statewide problems.
Trust me, I get it. I lived on the Florida coast for a while. Trust me, the storms and critters that worry you in Bay St. Louis certainly take up residence in Florida too.
The MS coast will never be Orange Beach or Destin, they have much cleaner water and sand over there. Natural factors you can't do much about. The MS Coast is doing about as good as it can, tourism wise.
I always thought those issues you talked about (as far as retail, and general economic development) are statewide problems.
Yes, they are statewide, I've witnessed it. It's a "mediocre" way of life. I can't speak for any other city than my own, and having lived all my life in beautiful tourist driven economies, I can see why they aren't thriving here. They have to want to put more out if they want more back.
As for storms and critters, I want as far from the coast as I can get!
annie do yourself a favor and stop talking about economic because it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.
I know I can put together a sentence.
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Originally Posted by Mississippi Alabama Line
Dead serious.
Let's put it this way. Mississippi is a bottom feeder for one of two reasons:
1 - A highly unproductive segment of the population, where a high % is on welfare.
OR
2 - "Coded language", which is holding people back.
Which one could it POSSIBLY be? Apparently, people like me are way more powerful than I ever thought possible. It's like I'm God or something, I speak therefore my coded language says, "IT SHALL BE!!".
Stick to NOLA annie, the shining beacon of liberal governing.
The whole state is unproductive but for some reason "those people" in the Delta will never better themselves so they must leave? Hell, me might as well dissolve Mississippi into other states cuz the best part of the state is still embarrassing. Just look at the conversation above.
So yes, coded language is helping to hold Mississippi back. But alas, tradition, eh?
This is not a true statement. Not much else I can tell you. For the uphill battle that many Mississippians must climb daily, they are actually doing VERY well.
A few rich elites (Ole Miss aristocracy types), and the welfare class, are holding MS back.
Jobs are such a tricky thing here (in BSL) and I can't figure out what's going on.
I've homeschooled my children for 15 years ... my oldest 3 (ages 21, 20 and 19) are graduated, all with honors, one with a 4.0 GPA. They are all in their 4th year of bible college, getting their Bachelors degrees. My girls are both working, but my son age 20, 4.0 GPA is having the toughest time! Even the most mundane basic minimum wage job requires a lengthy online application process that I doubt even gets seen by whoever is hiring!
He got a very good job with a commercial door hanging company, went through all of the training in Hattiesburg (he lived up there during training, 3 weeks, 1-1/2 hrs away) and was told he would get a job down here on the coast once training was completed. After the training they decided he needed to work in Hattiesburg living out of a hotel! We don't live in Hattiesburg, and there were jobs down here. What?!? So he left that job and took a minimum wage job in town. Once the opportunity presented itself, he applied to the electrical union in Gulfport ... he was hoping to work his way up to Journeyman. He took the test ... got hired and started work right away IN HATTIESBURG. Again. Well, this time he drove up there EVERY DAY for 4 months working at a solar farm. Made a ton of money (minus his gas having to drive 3 hrs a day) ... finished that job and got transferred down to the coast FINALLY! Started working in Biloxi at the VA ... worked 2 weeks ... the job got SHUT DOWN. So he got laid off. The union has no more work down here. SMH. So he decided to wait it out, applied for unemployment as he was instructed to do by the union, and got NOTHING. Went to different electricians in Gulfport and Slidell asking if he could apprentice, they put his name on a list. Crickets. So he hasn't had a job since June.
Meanwhile ... you've got loads of grumpy, lazy, crappy employees here, who hate their jobs and treat customers like garbage. Add to that the vast amount of our population that refuses to work and just expects to sit on their couch and get a check ... but a very bright, charming, extremely hard working young man who wants a job can't even get an interview at Lowes because "apply online, where we'll never see your application." Way to go, Mississippi.
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The whole state is unproductive but for some reason "those people" in the Delta will never better themselves so they must leave? Hell, me might as well dissolve Mississippi into other states cuz the best part of the state is still embarrassing. Just look at the conversation above.
So yes, coded language is helping to hold Mississippi back. But alas, tradition, eh?
What does New Orleans have to offer besides jobs that depend on tourism?
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