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Old 03-17-2016, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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They've been saying "those glaciers will be gone soon" for decades. Here's the reality: glaciers come and go. They are NOT static. And during the medieval warm period, it was warmer than it is now. This is amply proven by European glaciers that have recently retreated -- to reveal medieval habitations. You don't think they burrowed into the ice, do you??

Data that hasn't been suitably massaged shows a long-term cooling trend, but with increasingly rapid oscillations. The most unfortunate thing about cooling is that it correlates with global famine due to reduced growing seasons (and increased inland drought. Conversely during warm periods, even the Sahara greens up.) We're on our way to another ice age, tho probably not within our lifetimes.
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Old 03-18-2016, 10:26 AM
 
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They've been saying "those glaciers will be gone soon" for decades. Here's the reality: glaciers come and go. They are NOT static. And during the medieval warm period, it was warmer than it is now. This is amply proven by European glaciers that have recently retreated -- to reveal medieval habitations. You don't think they burrowed into the ice, do you??

Data that hasn't been suitably massaged shows a long-term cooling trend, but with increasingly rapid oscillations. The most unfortunate thing about cooling is that it correlates with global famine due to reduced growing seasons (and increased inland drought. Conversely during warm periods, even the Sahara greens up.) We're on our way to another ice age, tho probably not within our lifetimes.
According to the past half a million years of temp records, we won't see cooling for centuries. We are in an inter-glacial period, which in geological time are very short when compared to ice ages. Yes, the glaciers will return but not for many generations.


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Old 03-18-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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Well, it might not be all that many generations; see the "Little Ice Age", the most recent spasm of which ended ca. 1850.
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Old 05-31-2016, 11:26 AM
 
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Unless in one of the valleys near a river, you will probably be one of those that hauls water. That is why you see so many pickups with a permanent 350 or so gallon tank mounted in the back, to haul water to go into your cistern/holding tank which has to be buried deep enough that it does not freeze, or in a room in the house. Three tanks a week as larger families need is $20 to $25 per week to buy it and then haul it home.

We are lucky, there is a hard pan over an acquirer that is only 35 feet down. Our well is 60 feet so if there is ever a time of drought we will be far enough down we should be O.K. if the water level drops some.
I may have found my spot, it is near the Missouri River 50 miles north of Helena. It is already built upon, a beautiful and durable solid log home.
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Old 06-01-2016, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Montana
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I may have found my spot, it is near the Missouri River 50 miles north of Helena. It is already built upon, a beautiful and durable solid log home.
Congrats! That is a great area! We love it up there.
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