Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive > Motorcycles, Scooters, ATVs, Boats, Watercrafts, Snowmobiles
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-29-2017, 07:33 AM
 
1,692 posts, read 1,528,843 times
Reputation: 1417

Advertisements

Stories | Gridlock on anti-lock brakes baffles motorcycle safety advocates | Investigative Reporting Workshop
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-29-2017, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
39,861 posts, read 26,489,397 times
Reputation: 25755
"save hundreds of lives a year" sounds like more nanny-state bullchit. Most new bikes already come with ABS. I oppose making them mandatory. I expect non-ABS bikes will largely go by the wayside as new models come out. It doesn't take DC to make that happen-or to take models off our dealership floor before manufacturers can accommodate this on all models. Others, especially "enduro" or "dual sport" bikes are made less-safe with ABS on dirt surfaces, where locking a tire can be a method of turning or controlling the bike.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-30-2017, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque
1,321 posts, read 2,028,250 times
Reputation: 1644
ABS is already standard in larger motorcycle markets oversea. They're already mandated.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-30-2017, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
10,244 posts, read 16,366,293 times
Reputation: 5308
I won't drive a car without ABS.
I won't ride a street bike without ABS.

For me ABS is a safety feature I won't live without. The same goes for wearing a helmet.

Riding on dirt is a completely different discussion.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-30-2017, 11:28 PM
 
3,105 posts, read 3,832,197 times
Reputation: 4066
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy View Post
Riding on dirt is a completely different discussion.
Except that, in many places, you need a plate on your dirt bike to connect trails.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2017, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
10,244 posts, read 16,366,293 times
Reputation: 5308
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colorado^ View Post
Except that, in many places, you need a plate on your dirt bike to connect trails.
If I was to consider a dual sport I would ideally look for a bike with ABS which could be switched on and off. Most of the big adventure bikes have this and I imagine it will eventually be included with the 250cc class bikes as well.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2017, 10:10 AM
 
3,105 posts, read 3,832,197 times
Reputation: 4066
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy View Post
If I was to consider a dual sport I would ideally look for a bike with ABS which could be switched on and off. Most of the big adventure bikes have this and I imagine it will eventually be included with the 250cc class bikes as well.
No one wants the weight of ABS on a dirt bike. They just need a plate to legally ride on a few miles of dirt road here and there to connect trails. All of the two strokes are still carbed, if that's any indication of technology acceptance dirt bikes. And yes, you can plate a two stroke, in many states.

If ABS becomes mandatory for street legal bikes, then of course the greenie's will just use this as an excuse to stop issuing plates for dirt bikes, hence limiting our riding areas even more. **** that!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2017, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
10,244 posts, read 16,366,293 times
Reputation: 5308
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colorado^ View Post
No one wants the weight of ABS on a dirt bike. They just need a plate to legally ride on a few miles of dirt road here and there to connect trails. All of the two strokes are still carbed, if that's any indication of technology acceptance dirt bikes. And yes, you can plate a two stroke, in many states.

If ABS becomes mandatory for street legal bikes, then of course the greenie's will just use this as an excuse to stop issuing plates for dirt bikes, hence limiting our riding areas even more. **** that!
So I take it you aren't a fan of these?

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-31-2017, 10:44 PM
 
3,105 posts, read 3,832,197 times
Reputation: 4066
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruz Azul Guy View Post
So I take it you aren't a fan of these?
That's a dual sport bike, not a dirt bike.

Dirt bikes are around the same HP as that BMW, but 1/2 the weight, lower gearing, twice the suspension travel, and about 20 times more maintenance.

Engine/suspension rebuilds every 100 hours, rear tire every 20 hours. Wheel bearings every 40 hours etc. Air filter, every ride. For every hour I ride, I spend another hour in the garage.

Dual sport bikes have their place and they are way better on the road, but a 400+ lb bike can't hang with a 220lb bike on technical terrain.

Of course it's 80% rider though.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-01-2017, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
10,244 posts, read 16,366,293 times
Reputation: 5308
Touche and I think we're on the same page here. I don't want any added restrictions to your dirt bikes. I just recognize and appreciate the safety benefits of ABS, and when I'm riding on the street I want all possible tools at my disposal to prevent distracted cagers from killing me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive > Motorcycles, Scooters, ATVs, Boats, Watercrafts, Snowmobiles
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top