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Old 12-20-2008, 12:16 PM
 
Location: USA
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I've owned a 01' ZX6R and a 250R. I've ridden for 3 years with a combination of ride time between those 2. I can park,ride ect with no problem on those old ones.

This 07' Z1000 i've dropped so many times parking, i don't know why. I am getting ready to park and loose it. I am getting ready to go, loose it.

The bike is 150 lbs heavier then those other ones, no aero what so ever. It's an alright bike but it corners strange and feels very sloppy compared to the others.

I can't make any rhyme or reason on it.
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Old 12-20-2008, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Have you considered investing in some kickstands?
My step-dad has them for his motorcycle.
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Old 12-20-2008, 01:30 PM
 
Location: California
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I've owned a 01' ZX6R and a 250R. I've ridden for 3 years with a combination of ride time between those 2. I can park,ride ect with no problem on those old ones.

This 07' Z1000 i've dropped so many times parking, i don't know why. I am getting ready to park and loose it. I am getting ready to go, loose it.

The bike is 150 lbs heavier then those other ones, no aero what so ever. It's an alright bike but it corners strange and feels very sloppy compared to the others.

I can't make any rhyme or reason on it.
That is strange, maybe your using to much front brake while stopping, you say it feels sloppy, how so, loose? do you feet sit flat on the ground or are you on your toes? Front ire good? air pressure correct?
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:37 PM
 
Location: USA
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That is strange, maybe your using to much front brake while stopping, you say it feels sloppy, how so, loose? do you feet sit flat on the ground or are you on your toes? Front ire good? air pressure correct?
im wobbling in corners, compared to the other bikes it feeling like a knife cutting paper, this bike feels like butter slabbed on bread.

Good point. I think it's my front tire. I've tried to complain to the stealership i bought it from that it has square tires (a bike sitting in the crate or floor for too long)
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Old 12-21-2008, 12:19 PM
 
Location: California
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im wobbling in corners, compared to the other bikes it feeling like a knife cutting paper, this bike feels like butter slabbed on bread.

Good point. I think it's my front tire. I've tried to complain to the stealership i bought it from that it has square tires (a bike sitting in the crate or floor for too long)
let me know what you find out.
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Old 12-21-2008, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Is it one of the old style Models that require you putting a foot down when stopped?

Unless you have the double gyroscopic whiz bang option most people still need to put our feet down when stopped, at least after ten or twenty seconds.

Oh another thing to consider: after two beers . . . stay off the bike.

Good luck

GL2
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Old 12-21-2008, 12:55 PM
 
Location: USA
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Is it one of the old style Models that require you putting a foot down when stopped?

Unless you have the double gyroscopic whiz bang option most people still need to put our feet down when stopped, at least after ten or twenty seconds.

Oh another thing to consider: after two beers . . . stay off the bike.

Good luck

GL2
Old style, maybe. It's a naked bike with a steel frame. The bike does turn off when it's sideways. My wife made a comment, "every time you need new tires, you drop your bike." lol!

Next bike i get is not going to be so high and heavy.
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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I have been riding for close to fifty years. One of my most embarassing moments was in 1978. I am six foot but I have short legs. In 1978 I bought a Yamaha 1100. My usual rides at the time were Harleys that sat at least three or four inches lower and my favorite ride at the time was a 1970 XLCH that was two hundred pounds lighter and lower than the Yamaha.

That particular day was a fine summer day. I was visiting friends in Oklahoma City and while they were at work I was riding around the city. There was a really cute young lady in the lane next to me in a convertible with her top down. I was in the lane next to her when the light turned red and we had to stop. I was enjoying her seatcovers and I wasn't really paying close attention to the road surface. I stopped and went to put my left foot down. By the time I realized my foot was not going to reach the bottom of the six inch pothole the bike was already past the center of gravity. I fell on my keester right beside the car of the young lady I had been admiring. The only thing that hurt was my pride. She did have a good laugh though and I managed to get her phone number. Strange thing though, she never wanted a ride on my Yamaha.

GL2
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Depending on what's actually causing you to drop the bike, if you are dropping it moving off from a stop, or at very low speeds, I'd suggest (for the time being) get ahold of "Ride Like a Pro" training video/books, written by a police motor training officer.

Last summer I managed to take a Police Motor course, to try to boil down the 2 weekends of training to a couple of "quips"

1 you go where you look, so look where you want to go. You have to keep your head up and look at a landmark at or above eye level in making tight turns. In a really tight turn your head should be turned as far as it will go, likewise the bike needs to be at full lock or damn near, so as to turn tight(Head & Eyes)

2 by lightly riding the rear brake and slipping the clutch, with practice, you can learn to balance the bike independent of steering (consider the bike in a full-lock turn, at low speed, you are going around in a circle. If you let the clutch out a little, and/or gas it some, the bike will tend to lean less and you will run wider. Applying the rear brake does the opposite. This takes a while to put into muscle memory (Grey Area)

3 At low speed when making U-turns, etc, don't be in a big hurry to let the clutch all the way out. It will take *way* more abuse than you think. Keeping revs up (some, I'm not talking about an extended drag-type launch) and the clutch slipping will avoid stalling, plus in conjunction with at least covering the rear brake, keeps that altenative balancing method available, keeps your butt off the pavement.

Needless to say, harder to put into practice than to type about it.

If you possibly can, enroll in this type of training! It's expensive and consumes 2 weekends in their entirity, plus usually beats you up physically, but having real instructinon and an old retired police bike that's been dropped 1000 times so you don't have to worry about scrathing it up - these are the conditions to learn the techniques.
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:58 PM
 
Location: southern california
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me too keep dropping mine too.

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