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I wasn't referring to anything the OP said, I was quoting your post.
You said": You mean the actor who has portrayed Bond?
and then went on to say that none were American. Which is inaccurate. No matter what you think of that version of Bond, it was the character from Ian Fleming's books and it was portrayed by an American. Whether or not it was part of the "official" Bond franchise is irrelevant.
Actually, since both the OP and the poster I responded to were specifically discussing the "official" bond franchise, it's the only thing that IS relevant.
When I said "...the actor who has portrayed bond" I was speaking in the context of the "official" film franchise, so I didn't feel the need to tag the question with "...in the Eon films."
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Originally Posted by ischyros
That's not really considered part of the James Bond franchise, much like the Casino Royale with Peter Sellers. I mean, in the Barry Nelson version, they even made him American!
Don't forget Ursula Andress and David Niven, they also portrayed Bond in that film. Niven had always been Ian Fleming's choice to play Bond.
Americans never know when to quit on top. They always try to make a dollar on that last hit, then they don't stop there its always maybe we can get a few more movies or years out of that last series or movie. England seems to know when to let something go before it jumps the shark.
Actually, since both the OP and the poster I responded to were specifically discussing the "official" bond franchise, it's the only thing that IS relevant.
When I said "...the actor who has portrayed bond" I was speaking in the context of the "official" film franchise, so I didn't feel the need to tag the question with "...in the Eon films."
Don't forget Ursula Andress and David Niven, they also portrayed Bond in that film. Niven had always been Ian Fleming's choice to play Bond.
The Eon films were never mentioned. You made a very specific statement that was not correct. I don't care about the rest of it.
I haven't enjoyed a Die Hard movie since the last ten minutes of Die Hard with a Vengeance. I couldn't stand Live Free or Die Hard and A Good Day to Die Hard looks as if its going in the same direction.
I don't think Die Hard resembles anything like James Bond. John McClain and James Bond are two different people with different goals. As someone said, John McClain just happens to be at the wrong place at the wrong time whereas James put himself in situations intentionally as part of his mission as a agent.
Die Hard 1 - Nakatomi Towers
Die Hard 2 - Dulles Airport
Die Hard 3 - The results of the first film got him in that situation
Live free or Die Hard - Doing the FBI's job and his own daughter just so happen to kidnap.
A Good Day to Die Hard - In Moscow, with his son now?. I couldn't careless.
I'm guessing/hoping that the OP didn't really want people to compare and contrast bond to mclane but that he's just our version of hero. The fact that the setup is almost different in every way is just the American way of doing it "our" way. Another superspy would be so boring. Their similarities in that they come out on top and alive no matter the odds at the very core is all that really matters.
I had the misfortune of being talked into the fourth Die Hard turd. Is it possible this one is even worse? I would normally ask what type of person goes to Die Hard 5, but then I was one of the idiots who went to the last one.
DH1 - Nakatomi Towers
I liked #1 the best. It was a good action flick, not too believable but fun to watch. (Based on a pretty good book from several decades prior, called Nothing Lasts Forever a 1979 thriller novel by Roderick Thorp Nothing Lasts Forever (1979 novel) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
DH2 - Dulles Airport, and
DH3 - Gold Theft
Had great action, but each has a HUGE plot hole that I saw even as I watched it, which hurt my enjoyment.
DH4 - Hacker
Was totally unbelievable and the only one (so far) that was so disjointed that I won't even bother re-watching it.
DH5 - Moscow
I like this one second best, as it's also just a massive action flick, just as believable as DH1.
Regarding the "American James Bond", no way is John McClain a James Bond. JM represents the 'Everyman" who is pushed beyond extreme due to circumstances. He's not a cold blooded, extremely highly trained, professional killer.
For the American equivalent of James Bond, there is a clear equivalent, though you have to go back a bit. Derek Flint - Derek Flint - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia also has links to the movies: Our Man Flint (1966) & In Like Flint (1967)
He was written as a spoof and American equivalent to Bond, and I liked those movies better as they took themselves less seriously.
This latest installment of DH was just god awful. People must have really low standards for movies if they think this latest one is good.
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