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Old 04-30-2020, 06:16 AM
 
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I've seen it a couple times, all as an adult. It's a good film, if a tad bloated and self-indulgent. Still well worth watching, though -- there's lots worse.
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Old 04-30-2020, 02:45 PM
 
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Some of the soviet stuff really doesn't hold up today. "The Personal doesn't matter" or however that saying goes. I am sure that at the time, many people thought that their personal misery did matter and had no thought for the collective.
Yes, but the character who says that line is a True Believer, remember. He's devoted himself to the party because he's come to believe in the truth of Marxism, and that the needs of the group outweigh the petty needs of any single individual - and in the end, he's destroyed by the very thing political system he had come to see as the Answer to All Human Problems. In that context, his uttering that line is quite believable.
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Old 04-30-2020, 05:19 PM
 
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Yes, but the character who says that line is a True Believer, remember. He's devoted himself to the party because he's come to believe in the truth of Marxism, and that the needs of the group outweigh the petty needs of any single individual - and in the end, he's destroyed by the very thing political system he had come to see as the Answer to All Human Problems. In that context, his uttering that line is quite believable.
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The personal life is dead in Russia. History has killed it.
I took it to mean that Strelnikov was saying that the events of the revolution were so all consuming, thoughts of self had become self indulgent irrelevancies. I say this as a supplement to, not a replacement for, your explanation which is also valid.
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Old 05-02-2020, 02:23 PM
 
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I would suggest that after you watch it that you watch "Reds" fairly soon after. It too is an epic story about love & politics during a turbulent historical time in Russia & told very well. The characters in "Reds" are based on real people though, that would add a different perspective too.
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Old 05-03-2020, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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How did any of you feel about the miniseries version of story from 2002 (British)?
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Old 05-04-2020, 02:24 PM
 
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How did any of you feel about the miniseries version of story from 2002 (British)?
I haven't seen it. But I've seen War and Peace with Paul Dano, which I thought was tremendous.
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Old 05-04-2020, 04:36 PM
 
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You would definitely find it more interesting as an adult than as a child. On the other hand, it would grab you less when you're watching it at home on a smaller screen. It's not a great movie, but it's certainly a sweeping epic and meant for a theater.
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Old 05-05-2020, 08:07 AM
 
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I saw it as a 15 year old and loved every boring minute. Its far superior IMHO to the crap that comes out of Hollywood now with CGI and any and everyone is an actor. This was a classic in the true Hollywood sense. Fabulous acting with an all star cast headed by incredibly handsome Omar Sharif as Yuri Zhivago and the exquisite Julie Christie as Lara Antipova. The supporting cast includes Geraldine Chaplin, Rod Steiger, Alec Guinness (Obi Wan), Tom Courtenay and Ralph Richardson. One of the all time great scores by Maurice Jarre, one of the all time great directors David Lean and one of the all time great cinematographers Freddie Young. A true classic, we will never see the likes of again.
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Old 05-05-2020, 11:01 AM
 
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I saw it as a 15 year old and loved every boring minute. Its far superior IMHO to the crap that comes out of Hollywood now with CGI and any and everyone is an actor. This was a classic in the true Hollywood sense. Fabulous acting with an all star cast headed by incredibly handsome Omar Sharif as Yuri Zhivago and the exquisite Julie Christie as Lara Antipova. The supporting cast includes Geraldine Chaplin, Rod Steiger, Alec Guinness (Obi Wan), Tom Courtenay and Ralph Richardson. One of the all time great scores by Maurice Jarre, one of the all time great directors David Lean and one of the all time great cinematographers Freddie Young. A true classic, we will never see the likes of again.
I agree with what you have written above, but it reminds me that an assemblage of great talent isn't always enough. The prime example of this is the 1966 effort "The Chase."

Cast? Marlon Brando, Jane Fonda, Robert Redford, Robert Duval and E.G. Marshall among others.

Direction? Arthur Penn (Bonnie and Clyde)

Screenplay? Lillian Hellman (Watch on the Rhine, The Autumn Garden, Toys in the Attic, Another Part of the Forest, The Children's Hour, The Little Foxes)

For all this talent, a mediocre film was the result, tepid reviews and box office failure.
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Old 05-06-2020, 01:18 PM
 
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How did any of you feel about the miniseries version of story from 2002 (British)?
To update my own post...it happens to be on Amazon Prime and I started watching it. Flat, uninteresting.
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