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View Poll Results: was Nirvana overrated?
yes:they were a okay, but they sure were overrated 20 28.17%
YES: THEY WERE AWFUL AND WERE OVERRATED 13 18.31%
no:they got the recognition they deserved 19 26.76%
NO: They were one of the greatest bands in recent history 19 26.76%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-20-2008, 12:31 PM
 
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Nirvana came in and smashed the LA hairbands into submission, similar to what Sex Pistols and the Clash did to the disco era.
I have to disagree.

The Hairbands were fading out before Nirvana came onto the scene in the early 90's. Look at groups like Twisted Sister, Quiet Riot, Cinderella and Poison already had faded before Nirvana.

Also some 80's groups still thrived in the early-mid 90's like Metallica, Slayer, Queensryche, and Iron Maiden as some examples that Nirvana didn't knock out.

Although i didn't care for Nirvana i do understand the significant change they brought about in the early 90's although i do like a couple of those groups like the Stone Temple Pilots.
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Old 09-20-2008, 08:19 PM
 
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I say yes, they were ok and had some decent stuff, but overall they were overrated.
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Old 09-20-2008, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Nirvana came in and smashed the LA hairbands into submission, similar to what Sex Pistols and the Clash did to the disco era. They were sorely needed at the time.
Uh...The Clash and the Sex Pistols came in before disco even peaked.

Nirvana was definitely overrated some, but I still think they're a good band. First emo band ever? Wow, can you say total misinterpretation? No, they weren't lyrical geniuses, but they were by no means the first emo band ever, nor were they emo at all. Rites of Spring was the first emo band, a good 5 years or so earlier. Calling Nirvana emo just shows musical ignorance and is a great example of how abused of a term emo has become.

I think they made some good songs for sure and who knows what they would've done had Kurt not pulled the trigger. They had the dark, grungy sound down pretty well. They're fairly talented songwriters with a great drummer to boot. The music industry needed Cobain. Cobain just didn't want the music industry...

And come on. Compared to what I grew up with, is Nirvana so bad? When I was in high school (I graduated earlier this year), the big bands were Nickelback, My Chemical Romance, Insance Clown Posse, and Avenged Sevenfold. Luckily there's also a good deal of Tool, Nine Inch Nails, and System of a Down fans too.

Anyway...point is, it could've been worse. You could've grown up in my age.

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Also some 80's groups still thrived in the early-mid 90's like Metallica, Slayer, Queensryche, and Iron Maiden as some examples that Nirvana didn't knock out.
Those aren't crappy hairbands...hell, Iron Maiden and Metallica (yes, their legitimate 80s stuff) are still raising entire generations of metalheads despite having lost their relevance long ago.

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uhhhh....and Depeche Mode, and the Cure don't talk about drugs and depression in their music?? Give me a break, just listen to "Playing The Angel" One of the most depressing albums I've ever heard in my life.
You think Playing the Angel is depressing? It's probably their most upbeat album since Violator or even Black Celebration...
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Old 09-20-2008, 09:51 PM
 
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uhhhh....and Depeche Mode, and the Cure don't talk about drugs and depression in their music?? Give me a break, just listen to "Playing The Angel" One of the most depressing albums I've ever heard in my life.
I was not saying that the fact that Nirvana had some depressing songs was a bad thing, it's just that depressing songs were ALL THEY EVER MADE. Depeche Mode had "Enjoy the Silence" and The Cure had "Just Like Heaven" and Nirvana had..."Rape Me"?

See what mean.
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Old 09-21-2008, 06:00 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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I was not saying that the fact that Nirvana had some depressing songs was a bad thing, it's just that depressing songs were ALL THEY EVER MADE. Depeche Mode had "Enjoy the Silence" and The Cure had "Just Like Heaven" and Nirvana had..."Rape Me"?

See what mean.
Well, the lyricist did kill himself... so it's not a shock that his words were depressing. I grew up in the late 80s-early 90s, and Nirvana was & still is one of my favorite bands. I don't have to explain why, they just reached me - as they did for millions of other fans.
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Old 09-21-2008, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Great band. Extremely influential band. And they deserve a Nobel Peace Prize for killing hair metal.

But best band ever? No. Not by a long shot. Best band of the '90s? I don't know about best. But definitely Top 10.
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Old 09-21-2008, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Maine
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The Hairbands were fading out before Nirvana came onto the scene in the early 90's. Look at groups like Twisted Sister, Quiet Riot, Cinderella and Poison already had faded before Nirvana.
Hairbands were fading by the early '90s. I think Guns n' Roses did the hairbands a serious injury.

But no doubt. Nirvana's Nevermind was the silver bullet that killed hair metal forever. For that act alone, they deserve our eternal thanks.


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Also some 80's groups still thrived in the early-mid 90's like Metallica, Slayer, Queensryche, and Iron Maiden as some examples that Nirvana didn't knock out.
Well, to be fair, I wouldn't consider any of those groups hair bands. Metal? Yeah. Definitely. But heavy metal and hair metal were two different (albeit related) things.
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:49 AM
 
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Hairbands were fading by the early '90s. I think Guns n' Roses did the hairbands a serious injury.

But no doubt. Nirvana's Nevermind was the silver bullet that killed hair metal forever.
And yet they've been touring cities to large crowds since the mid to late 90's along with shows like Ozzfest being HUGE as Ozzy is one of the early quenessential founders of Glam Metal starting with Blizzard of Oz in 1980. (If you don't count KISS from the 70's).

As for killing Hair Band forever as you stated LOL........ i guess you might want to tell these 19 and 20 somethings about that as it's growing again in groups like .....

Vains of Jenna
Lordi
Wig Wam
Jack Viper

as a small example of them.

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Old 09-21-2008, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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And they deserve a Nobel Peace Prize for killing hair metal.

LOL! I hated "hair metal" too. Nirvana was a good band and I like a lot of their music. Kurt was a bit whacky though as we all know. Too bad.
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:18 AM
 
Location: The 719
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I said, No, one of the greatest bands in recent history.

And unfortunately, that's not saying much.

What has recent history produced? Ahhh, nobody? Well, actually... Foo Fighters. That's it. Everybody else sux.
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