The future of Nashville (Cleveland, Dayton: affordable apartments, condos, construction)

[Xelfer]

Originally Posted by jmecklenborg

Nashville has a very fragmented layout that makes traffic much worse than in various larger cities, and if it hits 2.5 million it's going to achieve a level of gridlock that will make it a hellish place to live.

Originally Posted by Shakeesha

5 Years: We will be larger than Indianapolis and Cincinnati (MSA), but smaller than Pittsburgh. The traffic will be much more along the I-65 corridor catching up to I-24 and I-40 at rush hour, and gridlock will occur well past Spring Hill all the way to the Columbia exit (46). A large amount of retail, commercial, and some office space will have opened in the city and metro area. Downtown will need major infrastructure upgrades (widening interstates is not going to cut it) to improve access and increase business development. Light rail, interstate reconfiguration, new ramps, new spurs, and exits will be needed to fill the current void in infrastructure (i.e. I-440/I-24/I-40 junction approaching downtown, lack of limited access highway between Smyrna/South Nashville and Franklin, 4 lane completion of highway 109 from Wilson County to Kentucky Border)

10 years: We will be about the same size Charlotte is now, only with much worse traffic, higher job and population growth. Due to the lack of infrastructure and limited funding to improve the status quo, Nashville's "it" city status will have worn off by this time. Commute times will be 50% worse than what they are now, and hotel rates will fall. Nashville will continue with major infill projects, and may have a few new tallests come to fruition. The riverfront will be fully accessible, with ample park space and mixed use developments taking shape.

East Nashville will be a major area of mixed use and commercial development. The dilapidated government housing will be gone completely, being replaced with a mix of affordable housing and upscale crafstman style homes. Sprouts, Trader Joes, and Kroger will have brand new stores in the area with additional retail and local clothing stores. Gallatin and Dickerson Pikes will see new life with more apartments and chain stores.

Madison will be largely unchanged only with more housing, and a few new parks.

The Gulch will see several new office and hotel towers see completion.

Broadway will see more local startups, mix of bars, and smaller scale hotels.

West End will be largely unchanged with more infill and more office space.

Midtown will large scale residential and commercial growth.

Ditto for Charlotte Avenue

Green Hills will see the addition or sidewalks, pedestrian crossing, aligned intersections. Hill Center Green Hills will double in size with additional retail and restaurants. TMAGH will see the addition of two new anchors including Crate and Barrel and either Saks Fifth Avenue or Neiman Marcus. Currents lots will continue to be subdivided into more substantial housing. Woodmont boulevard will see the addition of turn lanes, sidewalks, curb and gutters. Starbucks will build a standalone store in the 100 Oaks Mall area.

Berry Hill/Fairgrounds will see major redevelopment and the addition of a large recreational/park space. More local art galleries, and small artisan retail will take shape.

Annnnnd that big stupid hole on West End/Broadway will still be there.

At least, I hope not.

[Coseau]

Nashville and the Tennessee state government is going to have to decide whether to invest in developing a mass commuter rapid transit system for Nashville or do they want to be like an Atlanta or Houston 30 years down the road with traffic jammed 8 lane highways.

[g500]

Originally Posted by jmecklenborg

In 2020 Cincinnati and Dayton will likely be combined into a single MSA in 2020 of 2.9-3 million. The two downtowns are 54 miles apart but sprawl grew contiguous between the two after 2000. This is about the same distance between Nashville to Bowling Green, KY, but with stuff along the highway the entire distance.

San Francisco and San Jose downtowns are 48 miles apart with dense, constant development in between, and are considered 2 separate MSA's.

[Shakeesha]

Originally Posted by Xelfer

Annnnnd that big stupid hole on West End/Broadway will still be there.

At least, I hope not.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fRNedPHRvA4

[the topper]

Very bright with a major and exciting downtown!!! This city is on fire!

[BeeHoyal]

Traffic is getting absurd. Four way stops at places like Tyne at Granny White are going to have to be replaced by traffic lights. Wealthy people in big houses might not like traffic lights in their neighborhood but it's going to happen eventually.

[BeeHoyal]

Originally Posted by Xelfer

Annnnnd that big stupid hole on West End/Broadway will still be there.

At least, I hope not.

Did they hit a spring when digging/blasting? It keeps filling up with water, right?

[mjtinmemphis]

Originally Posted by Coseau

Nashville and the Tennessee state government is going to have to decide whether to invest in developing a mass commuter rapid transit system for Nashville or do they want to be like an Atlanta or Houston 30 years down the road with traffic jammed 8 lane highways.

Both Atlanta and Houston have rail transit.

Atlanta and Houston's traffic is due to the area having 6 million people. (Nashville will not hit those numbers within our lifetime). Atlanta is also very spread out and doesn't have a grid just like Nashville.

IMO, Nashville will start to choke its growth down a few notches within the next 5 years or so. Nashville isn't ready yet for the big leagues. 2 to 2.5 million max is what the area could handle.

[Howest2008]

Originally Posted by jmecklenborg

In 2020 Cincinnati and Dayton will likely be combined into a single MSA in 2020 of 2.9-3 million. The two downtowns are 54 miles apart but sprawl grew contiguous between the two after 2000. This is about the same distance between Nashville to Bowling Green, KY, but with stuff along the highway the entire distance.

15% of Dayton work force is going to have to commute to Cincinnati Ohio in order for them to form one " MSA "... Take a look at the San Francisco Bay Area....San Jose is not a part of the S.F./Oakland MSA because it's economy is too strong , people are not commuting into SF and Oakland from San Jose CA.

[nashvols]

Originally Posted by emanresu1

Did they hit a spring when digging/blasting? It keeps filling up with water, right?

As deep as that hole is, it might be below the water table. That, and it rains nearly 50" per year here.