12-13-2017, 01:04 PM
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Well, the title kind of says it all. I've visited many times, but am now considering relocation, and looking for input. All opinions and info would be appreciated.
Will I be thrilled, or will I regret it?
12-13-2017, 03:22 PM
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I’d guess you’d likely regret it. What would you be thrilled about?
12-13-2017, 03:36 PM
Location: Nashville, TN
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You probably wouldn't like Franklin but you'd likely be satisfied in several areas of Nashville itself.
12-13-2017, 03:49 PM
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Why would anyone know if you'd regret/thrill to it? Just because you're a particular type. I think in the grand scheme of things, people don't give a rip if you're a green, two-headed, duck-billed zebra... if you are kind and respect others. Depending on where you're living now, you may find it even more tolerant of different pegs. For example, I've never felt more unwelcome than I do in Manhattan every time I go there.... I'm a white conservative late thirties married straight guy with children. When people there learn that, they think they know everything about me. They don't know that I own an Internet-based firm and enjoy Dungeons & Dragons own 4 classic Corvettes that I've restored myself... oh, and I was homeless in my teens.
Back to you: People will not respond well if you're someone who thinks your opinion is the only (most important) one and you talk about how things where you came from are so much better/more enlightened.
Franklin is a family oriented city, but its proximity to Nashville helps with openness and amenities for singles. Also, lots of singles now live in the Cool Springs area, as that's a corporate hub. I'm sure you would not be the only straight, single, vegetarian, liberal atheist mature person in your apartment complex or street.
If you've visited many times before, and you never felt like ppl were labeling you, then that's very likely the way it will be as a resident. Good luck.
12-13-2017, 07:45 PM
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I didn't mean to incite anyone's ire or cast aspersions on Franklin. I LIKE the place, or I wouldn't be considering relocation. It's charming, bucolic, dynamic, and solid.
Sad to say, but yes, people DO very much "give a rip if you're a green, two-headed, duck-billed zebra," sometimes way too much. Perhaps that is because open-mindedness is one of the things we're not so good at in the world these days, whether in NY, MN, CA, OH, TX, or anywhere, really. Geography doesn't determine or guarantee anything. So, there are places in the country where, sometimes, enough people do NOT have open-minds and welcoming hearts, and that changes the culture of the town.
I've been to Franklin a number of times, and have my own take, but I wanted to hear from natives, or other transplants, because that kind of info is different even from what you can get as a visitor who hangs around for a while.
Hell, I wish everyone WERE open-minded, kind, and tolerant of (even -- wow -- interested in) others' perspectives. Maybe that's exactly what I'd find in Franklin. I'd like to think so.
Thanks for all input.
12-13-2017, 08:05 PM
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I vote for the regret category
12-14-2017, 07:23 AM
Location: Franklin, TN
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N Cal tends to see a lot of negative. She does not live in Franklin but probably has friends who do.
I live in Franklin and I like it very much. My sister lives here too and is Vegan and finds enough to eat. She doesn’t have any problem at all being an atheist. She IS very liberal and has problems with the politics. One, I rarely talk politics so am fine with it. Two, I saw a report that politics is now driving some real estate markets with lots of conservatives leaving California.
Forget the labels. Trust your gut.
12-14-2017, 09:21 AM
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You can do it, but it won't be easy, certainly at first. There are similar people, but you will have to work to find them.
Also, it will test your definition of tolerance. I moved here 16 years ago, married, liberal from the northeast, atheist/agnostic. It took me a year to find somebody I considered a real friend, and two years before I would say I liked the place. Franklin has grown quite a bit since then, and perhaps has a slightly more diverse set of view points, but it is overwhelmingly conservative and Christian. Get used to being in the minority, and get used to being shocked by what other people say and believe. I learned that tolerance is a two way street, so just as I expect people to tolerate diversity, I have to tolerate people believing that not everybody deserves access to healthcare and what the world really needs is more citizens with guns. So the things I tolerate in the name of getting along with people has really tested what it means to be tolerant. That being said, I live among and work among many Republicans, and as long as I keep my personal views to myself, I seem to get along with most. I would say that most people are fundamentally good people and well meaning, but they view the world through an entirely different lens. If you do come, I would suggest getting involved with groups that mean something to you, and that will help you find your way. A lot of people rely on church or their kids for their social groups, so that will be a challenge for you. Volunteering with certain groups that mean something to you can help - for instance a dog shelter or women's shelter or something like that, or join an exercise class, something that speaks to you. You can do it, but it will be an upfront culture shock and challenge. Also the food isn't as good no matter what anybody tells you. Say good-bye to the California Burrito
or bring one to me.
12-14-2017, 08:55 PM
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My profile matches yours exactly except for the single part. I've been here nearly a decade and Budgiegirl's comments sound about right. I live in south Nashville (somewhat upscale, low density 'hood) so might be similar to Franklin in terms of demographics. Kindred spirits are here but you will have to seek them out. There are many liberals throughout the middle TN area but they tend to be somewhat stealthy. When I first arrived I assumed everyone who appeared to be educated and artsy was liberal. Wrong! As long as you're comfortable being around people whose values and beliefs you don't understand you'll be OK. I'm constantly shaking my head. But church is a social institution in the south and the majority don't see the teachings/culture as problematic. I think that's typical for landlocked communities that haven't experienced multiculturalism. Many transplants here and lots are progressive, but also transplanted conservatives who moved to escape us *******s. Surprise - we followed you here!
12-15-2017, 08:24 AM
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N Cal tends to see a lot of negative. She does not live in Franklin but probably has friends who do.
Did have friends who lived in Franklin. They moved back to California and are so much happier.
I agree - what is the draw specifically to Franklin? And what is your budget? I think you'd be better suited for pockets of East Nashville, Germantown or even Donelson.
And I'll take an everything bagel with a schmear of scallion cream cheese and tomato with a cuppa black please. Haven't tried Proper Bagel on Belmont, but I hear they are the closest to NY bagels here.
http://properbagel.com/
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Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)