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Old 05-26-2015, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV, U.S.A.
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I travel across the country quite often and use hotel shuttles frequently. It's nothing like you describe. Take Reno for example. The casinos provide complimentary shuttle service to and from the airport. They have a set schedule, usually every 15-20 minutes during peak hours. They leave when it's time to leave and certainly don't wait until it's filled. Multiple stops? Nope - it's straight to the airport and back.
If that is the case, why not take the shuttle? You can't beat a good thing. .....
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Old 05-26-2015, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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If that is the case, why not take the shuttle? You can't beat a good thing. .....
Are you unaware that in other cities, the hotels themselves have their own shuttles, and that is what was being discussed, not the Bell Trans shuttle setup at McCarran where passengers from ten different hotels will board a single shuttle?
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Old 05-26-2015, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I think that is the point...so many say how what works for them in other cities...LV is NOT other cities. It is very unique!
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Old 05-26-2015, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Sunrise
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And the hotel shuttle to/from the single hotel is invariably free?

After 14 hours in a plane, it's nice to know that all I have to do is find the shuttle and get on. The "cabs are the perfect travel solution at all times in all situations" crowd is being willfully dense.
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Old 05-26-2015, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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I have plenty of sympathy for them. What if they don't speak English? What if it's Chinese tourists visiting Las Vegas and the Grand Canyon? Do they not deserve to be treated fairly just because they're not familiar with this area?

We have plenty of foreign visitors who either have difficulty with our language, or they are used to people living up to their end of a contract.

McCarran should install big signs conspicuously at the terminal with a warning about our dishonest cabbies and fare guidelines and times to popular destinations.
Well... At least you are consistently out of touch on this topic.

There is a MASSIVE chart when you walk out of terminal 1 ... RIGHT by the cab stand... that shows estimated fares to get to dozens of hot spots in town. Didn't see it? It's only about 12 feet by eight feet in all caps.

Any other groundbreaking suggestions?
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Old 05-26-2015, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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This is actually starting to get really funny. It amazes me just how passionately someone can be against something... While at the same time putting on a public display of complete ignorance on the topic.

Newsflash... There IS a sign that shows what it should cost to get to the strip hotels and other spots around town.
And guess what??? There ARE shuttles in Vegas aside from the private services. Red Rock has their own shuttle. How the hell can you miss it??? The thing is at least a 16-footer and brighter than a tomato. There are also free shuttles that link the Trump to Wynn to Caesars.

Question... Have any of the naysayers actually been to the strip area in the last five years?
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Old 05-26-2015, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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ScoopLV on the other Hate on Cabbies thread:

"Here's what WOULD work -- mystery shoppers. Have fares ride around town all day, catch the scofflaws, and fine the bejeezus out of them. "Thanks for the long haul. I'm from the taxi authority. Here's your $500 fine. And your company will be getting their $5,000 fine in the mail. Have a nice day."


Oh look... Yet another suggestion that already has been thought of and implemented.

You are three for three so far though... So there's always that.
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Old 05-26-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Sunrise
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There's Just No Stopping Las Vegas Taxi Drivers from Overcharging Tourists - TIME

Avoiding The Taxi Long Haul in Las Vegas

Las Vegas Taxi Scam, Long Haul

The One Where We Still Got Long-Hauled From The Airport || VegasChatter

Still Being Taken For A Ride By Some Vegas Cab Drivers || VegasChatter

Ever get the feeling the Las Vegas cab industry is long-hauling regulators? - Las Vegas Sun News

Consolidated "Scenic taxi scam/longhauling - experiences, how to stop" thread - FlyerTalk Forums

http://vegasclick.com/vegas/taxis.html

Taxi long haul. A lesson learned - Las Vegas Forum - TripAdvisor


How many examples would you like? It's not "cabbie hating" to insist that visitors get their money's worth. A cab ride already has plenty of profit cooked into the fare. Taking a passenger up I15 and down Koval to get to Mandalay Bay makes the city look bad. It leaves a bad taste in visitors mouths when the first and last thing that happens to them on vacation is having to deal with a dishonest driver.

And since when do the cab companies get fined if the driver long hauls? The industry won't police themselves. The regulatory agency is toothless. So of course the industry has a bad name. Cabbies have been operating in a consequence-free environment for far too long. It hurts the honest drivers. It also hurts the city's reputation.

Getting indignant about it isn't going to help the taxi industry's image.
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Old 05-26-2015, 09:09 PM
 
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Red Rock has their own shuttle.
A google search shows that you are correct. Red Rock does have a shuttle to/from the airport. But the shuttle is scheduled to leave from the airport every two hours. I'd wait 15 minutes for a shuttle, not an hour and 45 minutes.

Any other hotels/casinos with shuttles to/from the airport?
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Old 05-26-2015, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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There's Just No Stopping Las Vegas Taxi Drivers from Overcharging Tourists - TIME

Avoiding The Taxi Long Haul in Las Vegas

Las Vegas Taxi Scam, Long Haul

The One Where We Still Got Long-Hauled From The Airport || VegasChatter

Still Being Taken For A Ride By Some Vegas Cab Drivers || VegasChatter

Ever get the feeling the Las Vegas cab industry is long-hauling regulators? - Las Vegas Sun News

Consolidated "Scenic taxi scam/longhauling - experiences, how to stop" thread - FlyerTalk Forums

http://vegasclick.com/vegas/taxis.html

Taxi long haul. A lesson learned - Las Vegas Forum - TripAdvisor


How many examples would you like? It's not "cabbie hating" to insist that visitors get their money's worth. A cab ride already has plenty of profit cooked into the fare. Taking a passenger up I15 and down Koval to get to Mandalay Bay makes the city look bad. It leaves a bad taste in visitors mouths when the first and last thing that happens to them on vacation is having to deal with a dishonest driver.

And since when do the cab companies get fined if the driver long hauls? The industry won't police themselves. The regulatory agency is toothless. So of course the industry has a bad name. Cabbies have been operating in a consequence-free environment for far too long. It hurts the honest drivers. It also hurts the city's reputation.

Getting indignant about it isn't going to help the taxi industry's image.

But this is probably my favorite paragraph from the first link on your list...

"In January 2014, officials unveiled signs at the airport spelling out approximately how much passengers should pay and how long a taxi ride should take on trips to the Strip or downtown. That way, tourists should at least be aware of when a driver is trying to pull a fast one—or slow one, to be more accurate. It might also cause drivers to think twice before attempting to take advantage of tourists, who at least in theory are less clueless now."

Are you reading what you're posting?

The articles also states that cabbies themselves refer to long hauling as an epidemic... And that a study was done in which 22.5% of cabbies were long hauling. Meaning at least 77/100 were doing the right thing. Hardly the picture that's painted on this forum.

So because of the charts posted for everyone to see... Except Scoop apparently... Each passenger should know what their fare will cost before they even get in the cab.
There is also smart phones... If you are concerned about being long hauled, simply mapquest/gps the route on your phone when you get in. Takes 20 seconds... Watch to see if the cab follows along... If not, ask why the alternate route.
There are over 10,000 drivers out there trying to make money... Most will be legit with it, but with a group that large working independently, there will be bad apples. Doesn't mean the whole profession is garbage like it is portrayed in Las Vegas.

Then earlier I brought up calling the TA if you are getting long hauled... What was the response from the haters? Basically laughter... "Oh... Hah! When a joke. Why should I get involved with a 'government agency?' "

Extremely ignorant comment... Especially from the person being taken advantage of.

Yeah it might take a few minutes of your time, but you might get a douche off the road... Which is (believe it or not) WHAT WE ALL WANT.

Blows me away how people can whine, whine, whine and flat out not even educate themselves on the topic. It's embarrassing. Just in the past two-three hours, there have been three talking points brought up by the haters that are already happening and in place lol.

"THIS SUCKS... THEY SHOULD DO OPTION A"
"Already happening"
"YEAH BUT IF THEY STARTED DOING OPTION B"
"Yeah, that's been going on, too"
"WELL LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT OPTION C"
"God help me"
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