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Old 11-14-2009, 11:45 AM
 
Location: New York
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It sounds like an okay idea to me. I feel that a Light Rail or Local Bus (not 319 or 552) between Cape May-North Wildwood would work, does that trolley bus in Wildwood Crest already do this though? I like that Trolley Bus because its faster than the Tramcar on the boardwalk, although the Tramcar offers better views.
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Old 11-18-2009, 01:05 AM
 
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That tram car haunt me in my sleep.
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Old 09-07-2013, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Northville, MI
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What do you think of a commuter rail service that originates in 30th Street Station, goes to Camden where one can transfer to the Patco Speedline, then goes south through Woodbury, Rowan University in Glassboro, Vineland, Millville, Woodbine, Capemay Court House, and finnaly, terminates in Cape May. The line has transfers available to shuttle busses (or Light rail, street cars, some kind of transfer vehicle) to the Cape May - Lewes Ferry, Wildwood, Sea Isle City, and Avalon.
I think it would be a great Idea to operate regular NJ transit commuter rail service up to Vineland or Millville,NJ to enhance suburban transit oriented development along the Route 55 corridor. From Vineland or Millville to Cape May, we can operate seasonal Express rail service like the recently launched Cape Flyer in Massachusetts, since Cape May is a famous summertime resort town for tourists like Hyannis in Cape Cod. Such a plan would help the line take advantage of varying ridership numbers. A daily Commute from Cape May to Philly by train is arduous, and the line would not be used much after Vineland or Millville if its sole purpose is to attract commuters from South Jersey to Philadelphia. This would surely solve the 42-76-295 mess currently scaring commuters who want to enter Philadelphia during peak hours by providing an alternative and reliable mode of transport. Only issue here is purchasing ROW from freight railroads.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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I think it would be a great Idea to operate regular NJ transit commuter rail service up to Vineland or Millville,NJ to enhance suburban transit oriented development along the Route 55 corridor. From Vineland or Millville to Cape May, we can operate seasonal Express rail service like the recently launched Cape Flyer in Massachusetts, since Cape May is a famous summertime resort town for tourists like Hyannis in Cape Cod. Such a plan would help the line take advantage of varying ridership numbers. A daily Commute from Cape May to Philly by train is arduous, and the line would not be used much after Vineland or Millville if its sole purpose is to attract commuters from South Jersey to Philadelphia. This would surely solve the 42-76-295 mess currently scaring commuters who want to enter Philadelphia during peak hours by providing an alternative and reliable mode of transport. Only issue here is purchasing ROW from freight railroads.
There is already plans to build a light rail line from Camden to Glassboro by 2019. The project is currently in it's environmental phase. There are also plans in the future to eventually extend rail service to Millville once the Glassboro-Camden Line is completed.

Glassboro-Camden Line

Residents weigh in on Glassboro-Camden light rail line | NJ.com

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Old 09-07-2013, 07:39 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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I think it would be a great Idea to operate regular NJ transit commuter rail service up to Vineland or Millville,NJ to enhance suburban transit oriented development along the Route 55 corridor. From Vineland or Millville to Cape May, we can operate seasonal Express rail service like the recently launched Cape Flyer in Massachusetts, since Cape May is a famous summertime resort town for tourists like Hyannis in Cape Cod. Such a plan would help the line take advantage of varying ridership numbers. A daily Commute from Cape May to Philly by train is arduous, and the line would not be used much after Vineland or Millville if its sole purpose is to attract commuters from South Jersey to Philadelphia. This would surely solve the 42-76-295 mess currently scaring commuters who want to enter Philadelphia during peak hours by providing an alternative and reliable mode of transport. Only issue here is purchasing ROW from freight railroads.
Please look at maps. Believe the population density. Now check out the jobs. Do they pay enough to pay train fare? It only makes sense to connect to higher density areas that commute to Philly.

Why don't you figure out a way to take stress of the Schuylkill Expressway?

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Old 09-08-2013, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Northville, MI
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Please look at maps. Believe the population density. Now check out the jobs. Do they pay enough to pay train fare? It only makes sense to connect to higher density areas that commute to Philly.

Why don't you figure out a way to take stress of the Schuylkill Expressway?
Here is a link for a population density map of NJ. As you can see, population density remails fairly high from Camden to Vineland. Its south of Vineland that the population Density decreases quite drastically. The Philly Metropolitan Area also ends slightly north of Vineland, NJ. Hence Extending commuter rail service till Vineland is a viable option. Ridership will remain quite high till Glassboro since students attending Rowan University without A Car have direct access to a major employment center. In addition, quick access to Philadelphia city center could help expand suburban transit oriented development between Glassboro and Vineland. Unskilled labourers from the town of Vineland could be employed in construction jobs that spring up due to suburban TOD thereby lowering unemployment rates.

http://www.atozmapsdata.com/zoomify....ern/Z_S-NJ-Pop
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Old 09-08-2013, 12:57 PM
 
Location: The place where the road & the sky collide
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Here is a link for a population density map of NJ. As you can see, population density remails fairly high from Camden to Vineland. Its south of Vineland that the population Density decreases quite drastically. The Philly Metropolitan Area also ends slightly north of Vineland, NJ. Hence Extending commuter rail service till Vineland is a viable option. Ridership will remain quite high till Glassboro since students attending Rowan University without A Car have direct access to a major employment center. In addition, quick access to Philadelphia city center could help expand suburban transit oriented development between Glassboro and Vineland. Unskilled labourers from the town of Vineland could be employed in construction jobs that spring up due to suburban TOD thereby lowering unemployment rates.

http://www.atozmapsdata.com/zoomify....ern/Z_S-NJ-Pop
Please tell me that you're a student.

Most construction jobs are skilled labor.

I'm quite familiar with the towns along Delsea Drive. My sister has lived in one for nearly 40 years. There are still plenty of farms & food processing plants.

You are trying to use urban solutions in rural areas. Try to find a fix for a problem in Philadelphia.
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:48 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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This line and few others are owned by NJT , they could run seasonal service..... NJT is about to order over 100 DMU's for lower used lines like the Atlantic City line , Boonton Service , Pascack Valley line and Bay Head shuttle so you could be seeing Cape May seasonal service by 2018.
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Old 09-01-2015, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Philly
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Commuter rail to cape may would be wonderful, if it was traditional commuter rail it could host intercity trains seasonally on the harrisburg line alleviating some of that awful summer traffic that snarls roads west to lancaster county..certainly chester county. Unlike dmu service it also means a direct connection to philadelphia
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Old 09-01-2015, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Philly
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Please tell me that you're a student.

Most construction jobs are skilled labor.

I'm quite familiar with the towns along Delsea Drive. My sister has lived in one for nearly 40 years. There are still plenty of farms & food processing plants.

You are trying to use urban solutions in rural areas. Try to find a fix for a problem in Philadelphia.
The demise of passenger rail has probably hurt semirural/large towns the most
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