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Unfortunately, you didn't support your case by posting them. Would you care to post them, instead of just insisting that you're right ?
Your right I didn't post them that's why I said go to any site of your choosing that compares cities and you will get the facts. Just like Tommyc didn't post proof supporting his case either.
Your right I didn't post them that's why I said go to any site of your choosing that compares cities and you will get the facts. Just like Tommyc didn't post proof supporting his case either.
"Any site of your choosing that compares cities" doesn't have separate crime stats for different neighborhoods. But apparently, you have some knowledge on what the crime rate specifically in downtown Jersey City is. So here I am calling your bluff.
You claim to have looked up the numbers. So do tell, where did you look them up ? Because I think you're just making it up as you go, and that you didn't look up any numbers.
Hoboken, NJ 07030 Jersey City, NJ 07302 United States Total Crime Risk Index 113 241 100 Personal Crime Risk Index 79 267 100 Murder Risk Index 124 213 100 Rape Risk Index 17 92 100 Robbery Risk Index 93 421 100 Assault Risk Index 97 317 100 Property Crime Risk Index 145 231 100 Burglary Risk Index 99 253 100 Larceny Risk Index 131 156 100 Motor Vehicle Theft Risk Index 223 301 100
Hoboken, NJ 07030 Jersey City, NJ 07302 United States Total Crime Risk Index 113 241 100 Personal Crime Risk Index 79 267 100 Murder Risk Index 124 213 100 Rape Risk Index 17 92 100 Robbery Risk Index 93 421 100 Assault Risk Index 97 317 100 Property Crime Risk Index 145 231 100 Burglary Risk Index 99 253 100 Larceny Risk Index 131 156 100 Motor Vehicle Theft Risk Index 223 301 100
Copy and pasting tables doesn't work very well here. Would you post a link to the page(s) you got this from ?
I have no idea how to post this so it looks like a chart so here's this anyway. First # is Hoboken , Second is 07302(downtown JC) Third # is national avg. Taken from clrsearch.com its pretty easy to navigate and get the two zips up for comparison.
"Any site of your choosing that compares cities" doesn't have separate crime stats for different neighborhoods. But apparently, you have some knowledge on what the crime rate specifically in downtown Jersey City is. So here I am calling your bluff.
You claim to have looked up the numbers. So do tell, where did you look them up ? Because I think you're just making it up as you go, and that you didn't look up any numbers.
Don't be a wise a** I gave you your stats and website, look em up. And my question to you is what makes Tommyc's argument that Hoboken and downtown JC have similar crime rates more valid then mine?
I have no idea how to post this so it looks like a chart so here's this anyway. First # is Hoboken , Second is 07302(downtown JC) Third # is national avg. Taken from clrsearch.com its pretty easy to navigate and get the two zips up for comparison.
I don't know how they construct their "index" but they are not good numbers. Sorry for getting on your case, but I really did think you were just making things up (it didn't occur to me that you were misled by a bad source)
According to this site, the "murder risk" for Greenville (07305) is lower than downtown Jersey City.
A casual perusal of a homicide map shows that this is not true -- the vast majority of homicides in Jersey City are in Greenville. Based on this map, it looks like the only homicide in downtown was at a housing project on the outskirts of the downtown.
There is nothing terribly special about 2008 except for the fact that this was the first year that came up when I searched -- it's pretty consistently the case that there are large numbers of homicides and other violent crime in Greenville and around some of the projects, and much lower numbers elsewhere.
I don't know how they construct their "index" but they are not good numbers.
According to this site, the "murder risk" for Greenville (07305) is lower than downtown Jersey City.
A casual perusal of a homicide map shows that this is not true -- the vast majority of homicides in Jersey City are in Greenville. Based on this map, it looks like the only homicide in downtown was at a housing project on the outskirts of the downtown.
Hahahaha figures, trying to find a loop hole. Go ahead and look up any city on there the numbers are close. So now that I've shown proof, and this is as good as its gonna get because if I post more Im sure you'll sit up all night with a fine tooth comb trying to find something, why exactly is my argument not as valid as Tommyc's? And why are you jumping on my case? It's funny how hard your trying and thinking I've been lead by a false source, your fun.
I'm being serious though why are you trying to jump on me for saying that Downtown JC has more crime than Hoboken? Tommyc gave no more proof to his argument than I did in the beginning of the convo. I don't see how its that insane to you both that Downtown has more crime, essp violent crime. I'm not taking a stab at JC I'm simply making a point.
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