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Old 04-16-2011, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Buffalo
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Hello
Outside of the obvious(accident) I was wondering if anyone would know the rationale for closing the Helix outside of the Lincoln tunnel at 12 midnight?
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Old 04-16-2011, 03:56 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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To fix it , its near collapse.....alot of bridges and Roads are closed between 12-5am to do the work that can't be done during the day or the big stuff...
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Old 04-16-2011, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Buffalo
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Ok. Thanks for responding. It never looks like that is what they are doing. They divert traffic through Weehawkin(?) and it just never makes any sense.
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Old 04-16-2011, 04:55 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Its underneath work and the I-495 is empty overnight as most highways and Transit systems are...
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NJ
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Lincoln Tunnel Helix rehab might be going on for 4 years -

http://www.panynj.gov/business-opportunities/.../RTQDOC_LT-234.026_v2.pdf (broken link)

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Port Authority axing 200 jobs; new budget does not raise tolls - NorthJersey.com

Lincoln Tunnel Helix gets $98 million for roadway improvements - World Construction Network

Lincoln Tunnel Helix Gets $98 Million For Improvements: Gothamist
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:29 AM
 
Location: The Milky Way Galaxy
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Yup...and I know the traffic is crazy both ways when that happens. I've been backed up at 1am in the morning at times all the way to Madison Square Garden after dropping my fiance off in Queens. Thing is they don't always post it when its happening on their traffic website which I check because at times I take the GW bridge when I know going through the city will be a pain
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:07 AM
 
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I've been commuting through the area to work for years now and they really need to do something about it. They say the project will last till 2015. And the silly thing is that they say it will only add about 10 years to the lifespan of the helix. So basically they're just patching it up. Go figure...
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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I've been commuting through the area to work for years now and they really need to do something about it. They say the project will last till 2015. And the silly thing is that they say it will only add about 10 years to the lifespan of the helix. So basically they're just patching it up. Go figure...
To do a complete replacement would require a lot of money that's just not available right now due to higher-priority projects. Eventually, they will likely have to replace the helix, but since they can't close the tunnel full-time without sending the NJ/NY commute into hell, it will have to be a very expensive, carefully designed project enabling a replacement in stages while keeping the tunnel open and the users safe.
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Old 04-17-2011, 04:35 PM
 
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To do a complete replacement would require a lot of money that's just not available right now due to higher-priority projects. Eventually, they will likely have to replace the helix, but since they can't close the tunnel full-time without sending the NJ/NY commute into hell, it will have to be a very expensive, carefully designed project enabling a replacement in stages while keeping the tunnel open and the users safe.
Or they'll just wait until the thing falls down, squabble for months about who caused it, then build it up quickly on the cheap and wait for it to fall down again as a result.
(what, cynical,me?)
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:45 PM
 
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Or they'll just wait until the thing falls down, squabble for months about who caused it, then build it up quickly on the cheap and wait for it to fall down again as a result.
(what, cynical,me?)
Nah, maybe not cynical, just uninformed. Cheap would be nice, but construction in the NY metro area will never fit that description.

That's the point of the rehab--to keep it structurally sound until the funds are available to rebuild. If you've been paying attention, there are some far more critical bridge projects in the area that need attention first.

Ever heard of the Pulaski Skyway? Google the term "fracture critical".

The Goethals Bridge? The Bayonne? Well, OK, the Bayonne isn't outdated structurally, but the roadway needs to be raised to allow the navigational clearance for the economic health of the area.
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