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Old 07-12-2015, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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I think that braking up Newark into smaller townships is a great idea. Some of those townships will do really well and some will need to be leveled down and redeveloped. Think about it, University Hights is it's own township, Iron-bound is another township. I work in Univercity Hights and most of police we have are paid for by the Universities.

Generally, the smaller you go, the better individual interests of residents are represented.


JC is kinda a part of NYC as it is. Run 2 NYC Subway lines through JC and it's just another borrow.
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Old 07-12-2015, 04:08 PM
 
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Think about it, University Hights is it's own township, Iron-bound is another township.
What do you do with the leftovers? Just build a wall around them?
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Old 07-12-2015, 04:09 PM
 
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I think that braking up Newark into smaller townships is a great idea.
JC is kinda a part of NYC as it is. Run 2 NYC Subway lines through JC and it's just another borrow.

Are those disc brakes?
Do those brakes have ABS?
And, most importantly...what are the interest rates on that type of borrowing?

Inquiring minds want to know!

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Old 07-12-2015, 04:43 PM
 
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New Jersey as a whole needs LESS municipalities, not more. Breaking up Newark does not make sense. 565 municipalities. That's less than California. We should have no municipality with less than 10,000 residents. They should be forced to combine to meet the threshold or to join an already existing one above the threshold. There are so many operational inefficiencies that come with the vast number of very small towns that we have.
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Old 07-12-2015, 06:30 PM
 
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Braking up Newark will mean that property taxes paid by hard working individuals are not wasted on welfare recipients.

So if your in Portuguese area, all your property taxes go to support that specific area, so your area becomes better to do. The poorest part of Newark will need to be redeveloped.

Population of Newark is around 300k, so you can brake it up.
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:26 AM
 
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NJ definitely needs less municipalities, not more. It'll never happen though. I'm not sure combining JC and Newark makes sense, but both should expand with most of their surrounding cities. There had been plans to expand JC to all of Hudson County except for Harrison, East Newark and Kearny. Those three towns also should have been annexed by Newark long ago. Most of the areas that had been Newark in the past should have been reannexed as well - the Oranges + Maplewood, Irvington, Bloomfield, Belleville, etc. Montclair can maybe stay separate, as well as points west of there.

Now, the residents of these places, apart from maybe Irvington, would never go for it until such time as Newark becomes the next Brooklyn. Which COULD happen, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Old 07-13-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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I think the biggest problem in the state with municipalities lies in, say, Bergen County. They have an affinity for small towns. In the most populous county, half of the towns are less than 10,000 residents. That's how insanely broken up it is. The Caldwells and a few other towns around them should combine into one. Also, pretty much all of South Jersey, along with Monmouth and Ocean County, need to combine towns. The number of municipalities in Camden and Burlington Counties are absurd. Sussex also only has 3 towns above 10,000 residents. Ridiculous. Same can truly be said about Morris, Warren, and Hunterdon. The fact of the matter is that counties that don't have an excessive amount of small towns are the exception in this state, and this leads to overburdening bureaucracies that handle responsibilities for very small amounts of people. Economies of scale people, economies of scale! Boroughitis is a disease that must be cured.

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Old 07-13-2015, 09:00 PM
 
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NJ definitely needs less municipalities, not more. It'll never happen though. I'm not sure combining JC and Newark makes sense, but both should expand with most of their surrounding cities.
Because so many Essex County towns are clamoring to be part of Newark.

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There had been plans to expand JC to all of Hudson County except for Harrison, East Newark and Kearny. Those three towns also should have been annexed by Newark long ago.
Newark doesn't need Harrison's debt, Harrison doesn't need Newark's governance. Though the continued existence of East Newark IS kinda silly.

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Most of the areas that had been Newark in the past should have been reannexed as well - the Oranges + Maplewood, Irvington, Bloomfield, Belleville, etc.
None of those places were part of the city of Newark; they were part of a former Newark Township which was a large part of Essex County. And none, except maybe Irvington, deserve Newark's governance. The problem with these grand annexation plans is the proposers always consider how wonderful it would be for the city, and never consider what possible earthly reason the to-be-annexed towns would have for going along with it... because, of course, there is none.
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:27 PM
 
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New Jersey as a whole needs LESS municipalities, not more. Breaking up Newark does not make sense. 565 municipalities. That's less than California. We should have no municipality with less than 10,000 residents. They should be forced to combine to meet the threshold or to join an already existing one above the threshold. There are so many operational inefficiencies that come with the vast number of very small towns that we have.
*More than California. I know that's what you meant, but I had to.
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