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I think you have to consider the knock on effect. Take the guy that was currently making $8.00 an hour or $9.00 an hour. If he was worth XX more than minimum wage before is he worth that much more now? Do you have to also bump him up as well? And so on. So I think the reality is this impacts more people than just those currently making the minimum wage.
That's the problem.
Now I have to start those with no experience at doing ANYTHING (my employee base= college kids & all under 24. No college grads or brain surgeons needed to run a cash register, stock shelves, take deliveries, run a vacuum, etc.) at $8.25, where I used to start them at $7.50. Performance gets one of my employees a raise after 90 days and to $8.00/hr. Another 3 months? $8.50.
So now do I have to raise my employees hourly wage who are at $8.50/hr to $9.50/hr because the "newbies" are going to HAVE to be paid $8.25/hr?
People either didn't think or they just do NOT understand macro-economics.
Now I have to start those with no experience at doing ANYTHING (my employee base= college kids & all under 24. No college grads or brain surgeons needed to run a cash register, stock shelves, take deliveries, run a vacuum, etc.) at $8.25, where I used to start them at $7.50. Performance gets one of my employees a raise after 90 days and to $8.00/hr. Another 3 months? $8.50.
So now do I have to raise my employees hourly wage who are at $8.50/hr to $9.50/hr because the "newbies" are going to HAVE to be paid $8.25/hr?
People either didn't think or they just do NOT understand macro-economics.
As our country becomes ever more separated by wealth, what's left of our formerly strong middle class will have to fight tooth & nail for some semblance of workplace dignity.
If someone is unhappy with how much they are being paid, it is up to them to make themselves more valuable to others so they can be paid more. It is really that simple. Get better. It's not optional.
You're right they weren't. McDs used to be staffed almost entirely by teenagers with an "adult" manager who was 25. Check it out now. Plenty of 40 & 50-somethings mixed in.
We can't stop globalism but we don't have to grease its wheels either by allowing super-profitable companies to off-shore jobs AND pay ZERO taxes by incorporating as some PO box in the Caymans. Then we have the balls to criticize working ppl who need food stamps. Things have gotten way fcked up for millions of ppl who maybe don't have the wherewithal to navigate thru this awesome, new industrial-free United States. We shouldn't just clap for the winners. I know upper class people whose spoiled & educated kids are looking down the barrel at McDs careers too.
This is a Washington problem, and one that is very hard to overcome considering both parties are complicit. Also, I don't know who considers post industrial America to be "awesome". Certainly not me. I liked us better the other way.
So for the SMBO's struggling through the economic downturn (good thing for us is when it's bad "out there", we do even better), they now have to shell out more $$$ in payroll costs for the same job that anyone could do without putting too much thought in to it, and either lose their business or pass the costs on and lose business.
Again, what should someone who stocks a shelf be paid? Someone who makes a cup of coffee? Hands you a bagel? Flips a burger? Asks if you'd like that "super sized"? Greets you with snot hanging out of their nose when you enter a store? And then leer's at your little girl one second too long. Dries your windshield off when exiting a car wash?
The families of WalMart and the like? They're sitting on billions of dollars that have been invested over the years and if every WalMart went belly up? They aren't going to be any worse for the wear. So voting "yes" to "stick it to 'em" didn't do a damn thing to hurt them. You (in general, not you specifically, Camaro) just hurt yourself and the SMBO in your community.
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Another thing that business is not thrilled about is uncertainty. Now they have no clue how much they are going to have to raise salaries each year. NJ should write a book on how to discourage business.
Another thing that business is not thrilled about is uncertainty. Now they have no clue how much they are going to have to raise salaries each year. NJ should write a book on how to discourage business.
So for the SMBO's struggling through the economic downturn (good thing for us is when it's bad "out there", we do even better), they now have to shell out more $$$ in payroll costs for the same job that anyone could do without putting too much thought in to it, and either lose their business or pass the costs on and lose business.
Again, what should someone who stocks a shelf be paid? Someone who makes a cup of coffee? Hands you a bagel? Flips a burger? Asks if you'd like that "super sized"? Greets you with snot hanging out of their nose when you enter a store? And then leer's at your little girl one second too long. Dries your windshield off when exiting a car wash?
The families of WalMart and the like? They're sitting on billions of dollars that have been invested over the years and if every WalMart went belly up? They aren't going to be any worse for the wear. So voting "yes" to "stick it to 'em" didn't do a damn thing to hurt them. You (in general, not you specifically, Camaro) just hurt yourself and the SMBO in your community.
We should have no minimum wage and just let magic of the free market do it's thing. Oh wait, we had conditions like that over 100 yrs ago and China has that now. People jumping off of iphone factory roofs and owners installing suicide nets. We're supposed to be more like western Europe instead of toxic, bungholes like China.
Another thing that business is not thrilled about is uncertainty. Now they have no clue how much they are going to have to raise salaries each year. NJ should write a book on how to discourage business.
Really interesting theory. Tell us, when has business ever been able to rely upon the kindness of government or the favorable movement of markets for more than a few quarters at most?
The poor, poor put-upon business owner. You'd think that unless there were no regulatuons, unlimited cheap labor and access to free credit, these babes in the woods would have NO IDEA how to operate a business.
Really interesting theory. Tell us, when has business ever been able to rely upon the kindness of government or the favorable movement of markets for more than a few quarters at most?
The poor, poor put-upon business owner. You'd think that unless there were no regulatuons, unlimited cheap labor and access to free credit, these babes in the woods would have NO IDEA how to operate a business.
I'm not even sure what you are trying to say.
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