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I have a few teacher friends in the public school system (people I grew up with or have known 20+ years). The 2 in very poor neighborhoods have the exact same complaint. There is simply little to no parent involvement. The kids do not respect their teachers and between the laws and the unions, their hands are tied on what can be done about disruptive students.
The good kids there to learn are frustrated, the bad kids don't care, the teachers do all they can but its an uphill stressful battle for all involved.
Our kids---courtesy of where we live---are treated to all kinds of cultural assemblies, and things that I don't believe other schools would have without parent funding. It makes me sad because it's not fair. It widens the gap.
parent funding? aren't these failing schools very well funded by taxpayers?
Formally schooled, at a very minimum high school graduates, or some college.
College educated parents will most likely place more emphasis on their children's education K through HS
How do you define "educated" within the context of this thread?
I agree with you that graduating from college makes one more "educated" than a high school graduate. I don't agree that just because a child lives in a desirable town and has college educated parents means he/she will be successful. I graduated from Tenafly High School and to be completely honest was not really that impressed. My graduating class for the most part all went to college and from what I know there aren't many that became blue-collar workers (Not that there's anything wrong with being blue-collar). The "catch" is that none of us are doing anything career wise that couldn't have been achieved at a lesser school.
setting requirements for attendance and admission makes scores skyrocket, but those that control our schools say that is discrimination. ACLU and NAACP controls our schools, we do not.
I agree with you that graduating from college makes one more "educated" than a high school graduate. I don't agree that just because a child lives in a desirable town and has college educated parents means he/she will be successful. I graduated from Tenafly High School and to be completely honest was not really that impressed. My graduating class for the most part all went to college and from what I know there aren't many that became blue-collar workers (Not that there's anything wrong with being blue-collar). The "catch" is that none of us are doing anything career wise that couldn't have been achieved at a lesser school.
Not to sound like a commercial disclaimer - but individual results may vary. IMO it's essentially a numbers game. If parents' goal is to get their kids into a good college, the odds of doing that increase ____-fold if they go to Tenafly than if they go to Eastside. Better teachers, smaller class sizes, more AP classes, greater parental involvement, much less violence and overall distractions. Does all that lead to a high-paying career? Not necessarily but schools like Phillips Exeter & Andover exist to perpetuate the American aristocracy. And the elite publics emulate them to some extent.
I have a few teacher friends in the public school system (people I grew up with or have known 20+ years). The 2 in very poor neighborhoods have the exact same complaint. There is simply little to no parent involvement. The kids do not respect their teachers and between the laws and the unions, their hands are tied on what can be done about disruptive students.
The good kids there to learn are frustrated, the bad kids don't care, the teachers do all they can but its an uphill stressful battle for all involved.
I think this area is so overlooked when it comes to education. You will not see the results you want if the parents are not committed to educating their kids. For many kids, parents have to be involved. This is one of the biggest problems with education in the inner cities; the culture in many areas is just not supportive at home and you can't do it all within the school environment. But this goes for any community. The support at home is critical.
Parents are the biggest reason why students do good in school. It has very little to do with teacher.
While good teachers help, but good parents play a much bigger roll than teacher.
My daughter is in kindergarten and has very little take home work. Then I see my niece, who is a year younger than my daughter, going to a private preschool has more homework than my daughter. This is the case when I asked my friends from the city, who go to private preschool (daycare) has more homework than what my daughter is getting.
It's neither the students or the teachers.....it's the parents. Good school districts are generally equated with high income parents who understand the value of a good education and instill that in their children. A teachers job is much easier when they have the support and involvement of the parents.
Not to sound like a commercial disclaimer - but individual results may vary. IMO it's essentially a numbers game. If parents' goal is to get their kids into a good college, the odds of doing that increase ____-fold if they go to Tenafly than if they go to Eastside. Better teachers, smaller class sizes, more AP classes, greater parental involvement, much less violence and overall distractions. Does all that lead to a high-paying career? Not necessarily but schools like Phillips Exeter & Andover exist to perpetuate the American aristocracy. And the elite publics emulate them to some extent.
And if the even less elite publics emulated them we'd have a better society.
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