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The numbered highway system began approximately after 1925, and continued into the mid 1950s until passage of the Eisenhower bill.
The historical "Route 66" was one of the first routes to achieve highway number designation. In the case of New Jersey roads, US 9, US 130, and US 46 all have the very familiar federal highway armor shield. In contrast, a route like Route 10 through Morris County is a state highway, and has a different circular shield. Of course, I-95, I-80, etc, all came into prominence after 1956.
Oh, so u are referring to US Highways. Got it! Yes, I am familiar with the US Highway system, I guess I never heard it referred to as Federal. Unlike the interstates, the lower digits are towards the North and East. I enjoy Learning about historical things. Thanks!
The posted limits are just for reference. Changing signs from 55 to 65 will have zero impact on traffic speed.
Posted speed limits only matter if you go to court.
Now you might ask if those new signs, or the old signs, were officially 'approved'.
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Originally Posted by camaro69
Even at 55, people were still doing 80.
I usually do around 68-70 MPH on the 55 limited GSP (I drive from 142 down to 130 to pick up the NJTP) and find most other traffic does the same. On the 65 limited NJTP I do 78-80.
Never been pulled over on either road, even when I had Pennsylvania tags. You might get away with 80 on the GSP, but >15 MPH over the limit is a huge fine.
I usually do around 68-70 MPH on the 55 limited GSP (I drive from 142 down to 130 to pick up the NJTP) and find most other traffic does the same. On the 65 limited NJTP I do 78-80.
Never been pulled over on either road, even when I had Pennsylvania tags. You might get away with 80 on the GSP, but >15 MPH over the limit is a huge fine.
Really? I Know most cops will give u 10 over, but when I lived in NJ, I would get stopped if I did 78 in a 65. So I used to set cruise around 73, or so, to have a little margin for error. As long as I stayed within 10 over, never had a problem.
Where I live now, we have limits of 75 and 80 (on some roads), so I set cruise at 83, and 88, respectively, so as to avoid tickets. I usually go about 8 over whatever the posted limit is, no more than 10 over, unless theres an area that I Know has no cops, then I go for it, LOL.
Really? I Know most cops will give u 10 over, but when I lived in NJ, I would get stopped if I did 78 in a 65. So I used to set cruise around 73, or so, to have a little margin for error. As long as I stayed within 10 over, never had a problem.
Where I live now, we have limits of 75 and 80 (on some roads), so I set cruise at 83, and 88, respectively, so as to avoid tickets. I usually go about 8 over whatever the posted limit is, no more than 10 over, unless theres an area that I Know has no cops, then I go for it, LOL.
Time of day. If you're driving at some not busy time, better stick to less than 10 over.
If you're driving at a busy time, 15-20mph over or more may be the middle lane speed of travel and you have a near 0% chance of getting pulled over. The Turnpike near NYC comes to mind. The signs often say 45mph at AM/PM rush, but assuming it's moving, it's moving at 70+.
Time of day. If you're driving at some not busy time, better stick to less than 10 over.
If you're driving at a busy time, 15-20mph over or more may be the middle lane speed of travel and you have a near 0% chance of getting pulled over. The Turnpike near NYC comes to mind. The signs often say 45mph at AM/PM rush, but assuming it's moving, it's moving at 70+.
Maybe Tpke is different. I used to drive I-80, between Hope (exit 12), and Parsippany and there were cops all over, and they would definitely ticket if ya go over 10. Day Or Night. They even pulled me over twice, for just driving in the left lane! Just got warnings, for that, but was informed that left lane is for passing only. Very nitpicky. Glad u had Good Luck.
Now living in ND, we have higher limits (75), and in SD/WY they have 80. The thing is, some cops will write a ticket for 10 over, so I keep it under 10. Thats on the main highways. But there are large swaths of rural country highways, where u may go 50-100 miles without seeing a cop (or another human being for that matter), so u can pretty much name your speed on those roads. But this too, is at your own risk, because I have un-Fortunately, run into a few cops when I least expected it, and been ticketed. LOL, Won some, lose some!
The Federal Highway System is designated by black letters and numbers on white shields.
• Single and double-digit odd numbers run North/South with lower numbers being further east and higher numbers being further west.
• Single and double-digit even numbers run East/West with lower numbers being further north and higher numbers being further south.
• Three-digit numbers are spurs or parallel routes to the two-digit numbers indicated last, (although some run hundreds of miles apart from the main route.) Many were old roads that predated the federal highway system, hence renumbered after the system was created.
In New Jersey, east/west federal highways include US-22, US-30, US-40, US-46 (although 46 is mis-numbered for it's location.) North/south federal highways include US-1 and US-9. Three-digit roadways include US-130, US-202, US-206, US-322. I've probably omitted some.
Not to be confused with the newer Eisenhower Interstate Highway System — white letters on blue and red shields. The two are similar in how they're numbered but with lower and upper locations revered — the reason New Jersey has US-1 but Interstate-95, both running north south, the farthest east along America's east coast.
The Federal Highway system .. aka US highways .. is just a nationwide numbering system. The roads are built and maintained by the states. NJ does has not had state highway numbers duplicate US highway numbers since 1953. Route 70 was orginally Route 40, it was changed because US 40 is in NJ. In NJ the common use is "Route xxx" other states like Florida you will hear State Road or SRxx, USxx. ( ie Florida has a SR 19 and US 19)
Interstate Highways were built originally with 90% funding from federal governtment and 10% from the states. The states maintain them.
However with changes in highway funding bills over the years the 90/10 formula is no more. The federal government will pay for different projects, so there can be state highways that are build with federal money.
The Federal Highway system .. aka US highways .. is just a nationwide numbering system. The roads are built and maintained by the states. NJ does has not had state highway numbers duplicate US highway numbers since 1953. Route 70 was orginally Route 40, it was changed because US 40 is in NJ. In NJ the common use is "Route xxx" other states like Florida you will hear State Road or SRxx, USxx. ( ie Florida has a SR 19 and US 19)
Interstate Highways were built originally with 90% funding from federal governtment and 10% from the states. The states maintain them.
However with changes in highway funding bills over the years the 90/10 formula is no more. The federal government will pay for different projects, so there can be state highways that are build with federal money.
What is the main difference between US and state highways? Do US highways have to go to at least 2 states? I would think US 46 is an exception, then? Although it does touch NY at the GWB.
In NJ, 1-14 over will get you a 2 point ticket. I often see traffic go 15-20 over. If you get pullled over for that it's the same as getting a ticket for going 28 over (15-29 = 4 pts). Might as well go 93 to get the best for your $ in a 65 zone. Don't do 29+ otherwise its 5 points plus they'll probably address reckless driving which is another 5 points.
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