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Not vaccinating against measles during an outbreak is different from vaccinating as part of a school mandate.
Refusing to vaccinate in order to keep an outbreak from getting bigger should not be on the table.
there is no difference. government simply lacks that right and that is the end of it. government doesnt have rights that we dont have. if i shouldnt force you to get a vaccine against your will; neither should government.
there is no difference. government simply lacks that right and that is the end of it. government doesnt have rights that we dont have. if i shouldnt force you to get a vaccine against your will; neither should government.
If you are part of an ongoing outbreak of a vaccine preventable disease you could legally be forced to vaccinate. It is unlikely to happen, but it could. You do not have the right to put other people at risk for serious diseases.
If you are part of an ongoing outbreak of a vaccine preventable disease you could legally be forced to vaccinate. It is unlikely to happen, but it could. You do not have the right to put other people at risk for serious diseases.
im not aware of the government legally having that power. i am aware that they can legally mandate it if you want access to public services like public school but not to just say everyone living here must vaccinate.
if that were legal, it would still be wrong. government legal doesnt have anything to do with what is right or wrong.
If you are part of an ongoing outbreak of a vaccine preventable disease you could legally be forced to vaccinate. It is unlikely to happen, but it could. You do not have the right to put other people at risk for serious diseases.
Forcing vaccination: Since the vaccine is so much better at protecting us from others who are vaccinated; than it is at protecting us from someone who has the Measles.
Too bad there isn't a vaccine to protect against that sort of logic.
* I am not from NJ so I will keep it to a minimum.
im not aware of the government legally having that power. i am aware that they can legally mandate it if you want access to public services like public school but not to just say everyone living here must vaccinate.
if that were legal, it would still be wrong. government legal doesnt have anything to do with what is right or wrong.
Forcing vaccination: Since the vaccine is so much better at protecting us from others who are vaccinated; than it is at protecting us from someone who has the Measles.
Too bad there isn't a vaccine to protect against that sort of logic.
* I am not from NJ so I will keep it to a minimum.
It's your logic that's screwy.
"Since the vaccine is so much better at protecting us from others who are vaccinated; than it is at protecting us from someone who has the Measles." is false.
this isnt accurate. its right there at the end of the first paragraph:
" the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, which sits in Manhattan, cited that century-old precedent in rejecting a constitutional challenge to a New York law requiring that all kids attending public schools be vaccinated."
like i said before, they can stop you from going to a public school but they cant just force you to get a vaccine.
this isnt accurate. its right there at the end of the first paragraph:
" the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, which sits in Manhattan, cited that century-old precedent in rejecting a constitutional challenge to a New York law requiring that all kids attending public schools be vaccinated."
like i said before, they can stop you from going to a public school but they cant just force you to get a vaccine.
The law that allows you to be vaccinated during an outbreak has nothing to do with school mandates. Read the link again, please.
The law that allows you to be vaccinated during an outbreak has nothing to do with school mandates. Read the link again, please.
this is at the end of the article:
"Of course, the ruling is only binding within the context of public education; nothing prevents the parents from homeschooling their children and keeping them vaccination-free. And it remains to be seen whether these parents will be appealing to a higher court to review the case. But given that the Supreme Court has already spoken loudly on the matter, here’s hoping faith in the judgment of the courts and the rule of law will prevail."
seriously, are you illiterate? why would you direct me to read the article again after i already showed that you were wrong? im not exactly sure what it is about your personality that made you do that but its not something you should be proud of.
"Since the vaccine is so much better at protecting us from others who are vaccinated; than it is at protecting us from someone who has the Measles." is false.
Perfect. Then those who wish to should be vaccinated. Why are we talking about "forced vaccinations"?
this isnt accurate. its right there at the end of the first paragraph:
" the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, which sits in Manhattan, cited that century-old precedent in rejecting a constitutional challenge to a New York law requiring that all kids attending public schools be vaccinated."
like i said before, they can stop you from going to a public school but they cant just force you to get a vaccine.
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this is at the end of the article:
"Of course, the ruling is only binding within the context of public education; nothing prevents the parents from homeschooling their children and keeping them vaccination-free. And it remains to be seen whether these parents will be appealing to a higher court to review the case. But given that the Supreme Court has already spoken loudly on the matter, here’s hoping faith in the judgment of the courts and the rule of law will prevail."
seriously, are you illiterate? why would you direct me to read the article again after i already showed that you were wrong? im not exactly sure what it is about your personality that made you do that but its not something you should be proud of.
"In this case the Jacobson Court’s ruling has stood—not allowing a single individual to refuse vaccination while he or she remains within the general population on the grounds that to make such an exception would strip the legislative branch of its function to care for the public health and safety when threatened by epidemic disease [8]"
During an outbreak you could legally be forced to vaccinate.
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Perfect. Then those who wish to should be vaccinated. Why are we talking about "forced vaccinations"?
I don't know, since no one is forced to vaccinate regarding school mandates.
Your sentence, "Since the vaccine is so much better at protecting us from others who are vaccinated; than it is at protecting us from someone who has the Measles." still makes no sense.
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