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Old 11-13-2019, 02:45 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It is almost unanimous among scientists that this is happening. Can you look up facts and statistics about how quickly icebergs are melting and how many of disappeared in recent years. It is clear if you have eyes and ears that this is happening.
Yes! you are right. We all need to take seriously and lets do something for the to save nature. As you all know that the IPCC consults experts to assess climate change science and presents policy-relevant information outlining how nations can adapt and mitigate the impact and risks of this global threat.
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Old 11-13-2019, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Still waiting for the new Ice Age to occur that was predicted by the "experts" back in 1977.
I remember that. We were all going to either starve of freeze to death.
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Old 11-15-2019, 02:55 PM
 
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Al Gore - New York City will be underwater by 2014 (made millions in book sales)

Barack Obama - Florida is already beginning to be covered by the Ocean (buys beach front property).

The truth is many of the studies from 'scientists' are just data manipulation to show an intended result to procure more grant money. Politicians have been using it as voting platform from fearful believers, then line their campaign and personal pockets full of money from large pollution companies who have large vested interests in China and India. The entire Paris Agreement was just a redistribution of wealth scheme to move business from the US and Europe to India and China.
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Old 11-15-2019, 03:07 PM
 
Location: NJ
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we all should support initiatives to minimize pollution. but "climate change" is a big scam and money grab.
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Old 11-15-2019, 06:45 PM
 
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Climate is changing, it always does, and there is little to nothing that humans can do to stop that overall. That being said, the difficulty is predicting the extent to which anthropogenic CO2 is a driver. CO2 does act as a greenhouse gas in the atmosphere, but its concentration is still extremely small compared to the concentration of other atmospheric gases. Historically, for prior ice ages (including the 'little ice age' in the 1200's and 1300's), volcanic eruptions, solar minima and changes in oceanic currents were often regarded as the primary drivers. Volcanic eruptions can be especially devastating, the big particulates like sulfates blocking IR radiation and driving Earth's temperatures down.

It has even been postulated that the release of CO2 is an effect of global warming, versus being a contributing factor. That being said, analysis of ice cores have shown that CO2 concentration is definitely artificially high, but again the question is how much of a contribution that is making to the overall warming of the Earth that we're seeing now.

We can't deny that it's happening, but how much influence we have over it and how much power we have to stop it, I don't think we'll ever completely understand.

I think if people were truly concerned about the environment and mankind, that we should start having some serious conversations about other issues. There was a scientist in the late 1800's named Thomas Malthus who proposed a concept called the Malthusian Catastrophe. When pursuing my degree (Environmental Science), I came across some of his writings, and what he said really stuck. Here's a link to a Wikipedia article addressing it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusian_catastrophe

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Old 11-18-2019, 04:01 PM
 
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Was there just a storm that destroyed the Bahamas and the Coastal regions of the Carolinas? And then another one that destroyed Puerto Rico like two years ago. I cant remember.
Yes these are hurricanes and hit the east coast repeatedly starting in September every year. If you look at a map of the east coast you can see how it eroded over thousands of years due to hurricanes.

Also New England was hit by a hurricane in 1938 that was more powerful than anything weve seen in modern history. It killed 692 people, blew away 58,000 homes and basically knocked over every tree in New England. There was so much devastation that the US Govt came in and purchased all the wood, which was a pre-ordained miracle by God because all that ready lumber was needed for WWII.
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Old 11-19-2019, 09:46 PM
 
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The Galviston hurricane in 1900 was worse.

https://www.coastalliving.com/worst-...tates-history?
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Old 11-27-2019, 05:31 PM
 
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Hurricanes have been happening basically forever. Stating that there was a storm doesn't validate anything.

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Was there just a storm that destroyed the Bahamas and the Coastal regions of the Carolinas? And then another one that destroyed Puerto Rico like two years ago. I cant remember.
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Old 11-30-2019, 02:36 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Hurricanes have been happening basically forever. Stating that there was a storm doesn't validate anything.
it is interesting to see warmists jump on short term events like hurricanes as proof of climate change but if you point out that it is colder than normal they tell you that you dont understand climate change. you cant have it both ways.

the whole climate change industry is basically a business with purely financial motives taking advantage of people who want to do the right thing. one thing that was pretty shocking to me with that thunberg was the focus on "fairness." that is a loaded term that basically means that the rich countries should give money to poor countries to handle the impacts of climate change. nobody would make that their priority unless financially interested parties were pulling their strings. much like the UN's oil for food program was nothing but corruption, there are interested parties here (like the UN) that want to manage this money transfer from rich to poor nations.

we still put ethanol in our gasoline for gods sake. that is insane and completely and totally an act of corruption that nobody is stopping. it is so nonsensical to put ethanol in gas but it still happens in tremendous quantities. government really doesnt operate on anything but corruption.
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Old 11-30-2019, 08:27 PM
 
Location: NYC
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It's true that warmer ocean temps does fuel the magnitude of storms. It also prolongs the el nino and la nina effects. It used to be that these weather effects only lasts 2 years but now we can see these effects last as long as 5 years before a change in the atmosphere and ocean current patterns. What I don't see people or government do is inform people to move more inland or higher ground. You see tons of homes along the Jersey shore pop up in recent years despite all these climate change warnings. Most people just not taking the threat seriously at all.

That's one thing I think people all could do is making better decisions such as moving more in land and higher ground.

There were a few big floods such as Houston and Georgia and those are warning signs that it could happen in NJ too.
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