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I'm slightly intrigued as to why so many people are "bent" to the notion that portions of South Jersey fall below the M-D line... especially if they would fall north of it?
Everyone knows that it does not extend into New Jersey... which is because there wasn't any land survey needed east of the DE River. But aside from the technical nit-pickings, is it that hard to understand why some say that parts of SJ fall geographically south of the latitudinal line which separates MD and PA?
And the only reason people tend to point such out is to merely highlight that the far southern counties of NJ tend to associate themselves more with the south than they do the north. It's really one of those... "If you have to ask why, you wouldn't understand" sort of things.
If you weren't born and raised here, then you really have no idea. The simple fact remains that the southern counties share nothing in common with the northern parts of the state, aside from being part of the State of New Jersey. It's been said before and I'll say it again... South Jersey would be far better off if it didn't have to answer to Trenton - which is predominately controlled by North Jersey interests.
I'm slightly intrigued as to why so many people are "bent" to the notion that portions of South Jersey fall below the M-D line... especially if they would fall north of it?
Everyone knows that it does not extend into New Jersey... which is because there wasn't any land survey needed east of the DE River. But aside from the technical nit-pickings, is it that hard to understand why some say that parts of SJ fall geographically south of the latitudinal line which separates MD and PA?
And the only reason people tend to point such out is to merely highlight that the far southern counties of NJ tend to associate themselves more with the south than they do the north. It's really one of those... "If you have to ask why, you wouldn't understand" sort of things.
If you weren't born and raised here, then you really have no idea. The simple fact remains that the southern counties share nothing in common with the northern parts of the state, aside from being part of the State of New Jersey. It's been said before and I'll say it again... South Jersey would be far better off if it didn't have to answer to Trenton - which is predominately controlled by North Jersey interests.
I would say Cumberland and Salem counties, as well as the part of Cape May County that does not front the Atlantic Ocean are more culturally aligned with Delaware and Maryland eastern shore. However, I do not consider this region to be culturally aligned with, say, Owlsley County Kentucky or Hancock County Tennessee. There are many reasons for this, but the proximate alignment to I-95 still makes this area more similar to the D.C.-Boston axis than the planatation culture of the south, or Appalachia, for that matter.
Country Jersey to me is not the Pinelands. I think of the Pinelands as outskirts of the shore towns.......but.......not country.
Country is Wantage, Montaque, High Point,Great Meadows, areas of Hope, Blairstown,
Branchburg, Ogdensburg, Green twsp, .........those type of towns.
The towns are fine, nothing wrong with them. It is a peaceful way of living...........
Not everyone needs a downtown close, or a development surrounding them.
Its really the most Northern of towns in NJ that are Country........IMO.........
I'm slightly intrigued as to why so many people are "bent" to the notion that portions of South Jersey fall below the M-D line... especially if they would fall north of it?
Everyone knows that it does not extend into New Jersey... which is because there wasn't any land survey needed east of the DE River. But aside from the technical nit-pickings, is it that hard to understand why some say that parts of SJ fall geographically south of the latitudinal line which separates MD and PA?
And the only reason people tend to point such out is to merely highlight that the far southern counties of NJ tend to associate themselves more with the south than they do the north. It's really one of those... "If you have to ask why, you wouldn't understand" sort of things.
If you weren't born and raised here, then you really have no idea. The simple fact remains that the southern counties share nothing in common with the northern parts of the state, aside from being part of the State of New Jersey. It's been said before and I'll say it again... South Jersey would be far better off if it didn't have to answer to Trenton - which is predominately controlled by North Jersey interests.
almost everyone in nj save for the urban takers would be better off if we didn't have to feed the monsters in trenton
You're joking right? It is actually Maryland and parts of PA. NJ and Delaware were well north of the line.
I live in Cherry Hill so the pp who said we are rednecks because we are below 195 obviously has not spent any time here.
Shanny
According to the Museum at Independence Hall in Philadelphia, the southern part of NJ is below the Mason Dixon line. They had a map of the line on the wall in the museum.
Country Jersey to me is not the Pinelands. I think of the Pinelands as outskirts of the shore towns.......but.......not country.
Country is Wantage, Montaque, High Point,Great Meadows, areas of Hope, Blairstown,
Branchburg, Ogdensburg, Green twsp, .........those type of towns.
The towns are fine, nothing wrong with them. It is a peaceful way of living...........
Not everyone needs a downtown close, or a development surrounding them.
Its really the most Northern of towns in NJ that are Country........IMO.........
I would agree,this is a great thread to prove NJ has a little bit of everything!
According to the Museum at Independence Hall in Philadelphia, the southern part of NJ is below the Mason Dixon line. They had a map of the line on the wall in the museum.
I notice the term "redneck" has been used in this thread. Perhaps the user is not aware that it's a racial epithet (like "n-----," or "darky"), in that it's lighter skinned folks who burn. It's used to assert class superiority, often by people who are insecure about their own social positions.
Worst of all, it's a put down specifically aimed at working people. The term originally referred to folks who worked outside in the sun, and to this day it's still associated with working people. That's why the term "redneck" is never used to describe pimps, panhandlers, bums, etc.
You think it refers not to race or class, but to a certain attitude that's more common among rural working folks? That's a stereotype. There's some bigotry and provincialism in all regions and classes all over the world, including plenty among "educated" people who sneer at those who make their comfortable lives possible.
The fact that some light-skinned folks call themselves rednecks doesn't justify anyone else using that term, any more than does the fact that some dark folks call themselves "n-----."
I notice the term "redneck" has been used in this thread. Perhaps the user is not aware that it's a racial epithet (like "n-----," or "darky"), in that it's lighter skinned folks who burn. It's used to assert class superiority, often by people who are insecure about their own social positions.
Worst of all, it's a put down specifically aimed at working people. The term originally referred to folks who worked outside in the sun, and to this day it's still associated with working people. That's why the term "redneck" is never used to describe pimps, panhandlers, bums, etc.
You think it refers not to race or class, but to a certain attitude that's more common among rural working folks? That's a stereotype. There's some bigotry and provincialism in all regions and classes all over the world, including plenty among "educated" people who sneer at those who make their comfortable lives possible.
The fact that some light-skinned folks call themselves rednecks doesn't justify anyone else using that term, any more than does the fact that some dark folks call themselves "n-----."
I've forwarded your post on to Jeff Foxworthy, and will notify you when he sends a response. After all- he's the one who made "redneck" a common term, so he's the one who seems to owe you an apology......
I've forwarded your post on to Jeff Foxworthy, and will notify you when he sends a response. After all- he's the one who made "redneck" a common term, so he's the one who seems to owe you an apology......
Foxworthy should have maybe thought a little before he named that stuff...
maybe he should have called it 'you might be trailer trash if...'
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