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Old 10-20-2008, 04:07 AM
 
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Slackers PA vs NJ? LMFAO

Rocker is good with stats, bad with interpretations and analysis. PA's income is very low compared to NJ's, even with affordable housing in the calcs.

 
Old 10-20-2008, 06:12 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Rocker, how many times must I tell you that Mercer is part of the greater Philly area? As for your not knowing what goes on in Mercer, no kidding, you have no idea about NJ in general.

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Mercer County is considered part of the New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA and NY Metro Area as defined by the Census bureau.
 
Old 10-20-2008, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Stand on the northbound platform at Princeton Jct and Hamilton, or take a morning rush hour drive north on Route 1. Then you'll see why. More people in Mercer commute north than south. And Census Journey-to-Work data proves it. Census 2000 Journey to Work County to County Worker Flows
 
Old 10-20-2008, 07:15 AM
 
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The combined NYC metro area includes PA, so it's really not very accurate. There is nothing in PA that should be included as part of the NYC metro. Mercer is claimed by both Philly and NYC but it is also claimed to be part of the Delaware Valley, so in terms of topography, it is clearly better defined under the greater Philly area.

Mercer has nothing in common with northern NJ or NYC, the culture is very much like South Jersey. And I've lived in both NYC/Philly metro areas so I know what I'm talking about. I suspect the entire county will never be properly designated under Philly because Philly is NYC's poor stepchild. People in Mercer think of themselves as being in central NJ but they really are in South Jersey. Counties to the northeast are in central NJ- Middlesex and Monmouth Counties. Ocean County is the same, think they are in central NJ when they are in South Jersey.
 
Old 10-20-2008, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Take it up w/ the Census Bureau and tell people in Mercer to stop commuting north already!
 
Old 10-20-2008, 07:23 AM
 
Location: High Bridge, NJ
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Random question-how many of you debating this have ever lived in Mercer County? I spent the majority (26) of my 27 years there...
 
Old 10-20-2008, 07:26 AM
 
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Take it up w/ the Census Bureau and tell people in Mercer to stop commuting north already!
Commuting north has nothing to do with it. There's a growing group in South Jersey's wealthier communities commuting to NYC, does that mean Moorestown is now in the NYC metro area?
 
Old 10-20-2008, 07:41 AM
 
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Commuting north has nothing to do with it. There's a growing group in South Jersey's wealthier communities commuting to NYC, does that mean Moorestown is now in the NYC metro area?
as lammius said, take it up with the census bureau. i'm just stating the facts, the fact that you think it should be part of philly doesn't make it so.
 
Old 10-20-2008, 07:50 AM
 
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Commuting north has nothing to do with it. There's a growing group in South Jersey's wealthier communities commuting to NYC, does that mean Moorestown is now in the NYC metro area?
As the definition goes, commuting has everything to do with it. That's what makes a metropolitan area a metropolitan area, according to the Census. To answer your question about Moorestown, if enough people from Burlington County start commuting north instead of west, then yes, Burlington County could one day be part of a different metro region. I doubt that "growing group" you mentioned will "flip" Burlington anytime soon, though. You see similar groups growing in places like Bucks County, PA also. By the time counties like Bucks and Burlington send enough workers north to be on the brink of flipping, I think you'd see a combined metro area including New York and Philadelphia evolve. What a scary beast that would be.
 
Old 10-20-2008, 07:53 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Random question-how many of you debating this have ever lived in Mercer County? I spent the majority (26) of my 27 years there...
that's one county I didn't live in! i agree with your assessment earlier. Personally, I know people who live there and they align themselves more with NY than Philly (Princeton, East Windsor, and Washington Twp).
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