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Morristown is all right. There is a dicey section with public housing but that is a very small area of Morristown.
Dover has many hispanics, not entirely mexican, that said it's a decent town with some nice neighborhoods.
Not having to worry about school system is a plus.
Gangs...they are everywhere but you won't find them in Dover or Morristown to the extent you have in Union/Essex county
The original poster did not ask anything about race or ethnicity, he asked about safety. So why did you state that Dover is OK in spite of it's hispanic population? That is what your "that said" comment seems to mean. I'm curious as to why you did not say, "Dover has many whites of European descent not just Irish." Where did the op specifically ask for a breakdown of the hispanic demographics? Or did you just feel like throwing that in? Why didn't you choose to breakdown the whites of European ancestry demographics? The Dover school system is mostly hispanic; so is that why it is a plus to not have to worry about it or is it because of another reason? The blatant ethno-centrism on some of these threads astonishes me!
Lots of people on these forums seem to think bad area means the area where no whites are. If you study the crime stats for Dover you will see that it has half the violent crime rate as the national average. And that is uniform for all of it's neighborhoods. Same for property crime rates also. I have been through Dover many times and have not found any "bad" neighborhoods, at least by crime stat standards. You say it has some nice neighborhoods. Can you help me find the ones that are not, since the crime rates are uniform? Or did you mean "where the Mexicans live?"
The original poster did not ask anything about race or ethnicity, he asked about safety. So why did you state that Dover is OK in spite of it's hispanic population? That is what your "that said" comment seems to mean. I'm curious as to why you did not say, "Dover has many whites of European descent not just Irish." Where did the op specifically ask for a breakdown of the hispanic demographics? Or did you just feel like throwing that in? Why didn't you choose to breakdown the whites of European ancestry demographics? The Dover school system is mostly hispanic; so is that why it is a plus to not have to worry about it or is it because of another reason? The blatant ethno-centrism on some of these threads astonishes me!
Lots of people on these forums seem to think bad area means the area where no whites are. If you study the crime stats for Dover you will see that it has half the violent crime rate as the national average. And that is uniform for all of it's neighborhoods. Same for property crime rates also. I have been through Dover many times and have not found any "bad" neighborhoods, at least by crime stat standards. You say it has some nice neighborhoods. Can you help me find the ones that are not, since the crime rates are uniform? Or did you mean "where the Mexicans live?"
dont bring this kind of politically correct garbage to this forum. The good thing here is that you dont have to sift through the BS. People will tell you what is what.
Anyone would want to know the demographics of a place they are looking to move to. I would not move to a place with that many hispanics period. Not saying they are bad people or anything, but I would not want to be surrounded by spanish speakers. I would want to have some neighbors who i could invite to a BBQ or something.
dont bring this kind of politically correct garbage to this forum. The good thing here is that you dont have to sift through the BS. People will tell you what is what.
Anyone would want to know the demographics of a place they are looking to move to. I would not move to a place with that many hispanics period. Not saying they are bad people or anything, but I would not want to be surrounded by spanish speakers. I would want to have some neighbors who i could invite to a BBQ or something.
Are you a moderator for the NJ forum? I personally attacked no one and I stayed on topic. That being said, the op did not ask for demographics. So now you assume what posters want to know? Do you think everyone is prejudiced against Spanish speakers as you stated that you are? How do you know that he or she would not want to live around law abiding Spanish speakers? And, there are many hispanic neighborhoods in NJ where English IS the dominant language, but i guess you would not know that because you seem to avoid hispanics in general. What you consider BS, another might not. Isn't free speech a wonderful thing? I must have pushed your "guilt" button or else you would not have responded. Don't worry though, it isn't against the law to be ethno-centrist, so you are safe.
The original poster did not ask anything about race or ethnicity, he asked about safety. So why did you state that Dover is OK in spite of it's hispanic population? That is what your "that said" comment seems to mean. I'm curious as to why you did not say, "Dover has many whites of European descent not just Irish." Where did the op specifically ask for a breakdown of the hispanic demographics? Or did you just feel like throwing that in? Why didn't you choose to breakdown the whites of European ancestry demographics? The Dover school system is mostly hispanic; so is that why it is a plus to not have to worry about it or is it because of another reason? The blatant ethno-centrism on some of these threads astonishes me!
Lots of people on these forums seem to think bad area means the area where no whites are. If you study the crime stats for Dover you will see that it has half the violent crime rate as the national average. And that is uniform for all of it's neighborhoods. Same for property crime rates also. I have been through Dover many times and have not found any "bad" neighborhoods, at least by crime stat standards. You say it has some nice neighborhoods. Can you help me find the ones that are not, since the crime rates are uniform? Or did you mean "where the Mexicans live?"
Because GiantRutgers had said Dover was mostly Mexican which it's not...many hispanics from many different countries not just Mexico...read the entire thread before you single me out ok..sheesh NJSocks the other day me today..WHO ARE YOU???????
as far as schools everyone seems to have these high expectations for NJ schools not having to worry about them is a plus...cripes you always get your panties in a bunch
Because GiantRutgers had said Dover was mostly Mexican which it's not...rmany hispanics from many different countries not jus Mexico...read the entire thread before you single me out ok
as far as schools everyone seems to have these high expectations for NJ schools not having to worry about them is a plus...cripes you always get your panties in a bunch
You call it getting my panties in a bunch but I call it paying attention to detail. I was just pointing out how people on these forums always seem to equate or connect the "bad neighborhood" statement with certain racial groups. And in this instance, Dover has a low crime rate as compared to the national average. But, as you can see, people like giantrutgersfan are adverse to Spanish speakers regardless of whether they are law abiding or not. He got his panties in a huff for no reason because I did not attack anyone for thinking that way, I just called it what it was: ETHNO-CENTRISM. He's allowed to be whatever he wants.
You are correct regarding your latest assesment regarding the hispanic demographics of Dover. Columbians outnumber Mexicans in Dover. I have read many of your posts and find them intelligent and interesting, NJKATE. However, I just pointed out what I thought to be an ethno-centric statement. Is that OK, giantrutgers? As far as I know it did not violate the TOS. It is always interesting to see how certain people out themselves with their hostile replies (and I am not refering to you njkate).......
You call it getting my panties in a bunch but I call it paying attention to detail. I was just pointing out how people on these forums always seem to equate or connect the "bad neighborhood" statement with certain racial groups. And in this instance, Dover has a low crime rate as compared to the national average. But, as you can see, people like giantrutgersfan are adverse to Spanish speakers regardless of whether they are law abiding or not. He got his panties in a huff for no reason because I did not attack anyone for thinking that way, I just called it what it was: ETHNO-CENTRISM. He's allowed to be whatever he wants.
You are correct regarding your latest assesment regarding the hispanic demographics of Dover. Columbians outnumber Mexicans in Dover. I have read many of your posts and find them intelligent and interesting, NJKATE. However, I just pointed out what I thought to be an ethno-centric statement. Is that OK, giantrutgers? As far as I know it did not violate the TOS. It is always interesting to see how certain people out themselves with their hostile replies (and I am not refering to you njkate).......
What is your point? I said that its a pretty decent town, but has a lot of mexicans/hispanics and they speak spanish. What is the big issue with that? Your sitting here calling me a racist for no reason.
The guy said that he found the info people gave to be useful. I was just throwing out some general info on the area that people are gonna want to know if they are considering moving there.... Geez. Talk about being overly sensitive
You call it getting my panties in a bunch but I call it paying attention to detail. I was just pointing out how people on these forums always seem to equate or connect the "bad neighborhood" statement with certain racial groups. And in this instance, Dover has a low crime rate as compared to the national average. But, as you can see, people like giantrutgersfan are adverse to Spanish speakers regardless of whether they are law abiding or not. He got his panties in a huff for no reason because I did not attack anyone for thinking that way, I just called it what it was: ETHNO-CENTRISM. He's allowed to be whatever he wants.
You are correct regarding your latest assesment regarding the hispanic demographics of Dover. Columbians outnumber Mexicans in Dover. I have read many of your posts and find them intelligent and interesting, NJKATE. However, I just pointed out what I thought to be an ethno-centric statement. Is that OK, giantrutgers? As far as I know it did not violate the TOS. It is always interesting to see how certain people out themselves with their hostile replies (and I am not refering to you njkate).......
Well thank you! I was not trying to be ETHNO-CENTRISM, I merely wanted to point out Dover is not mostly Mexican, I should know my daughter lives in Dover and yes she is a blue eyed devil...lol.. but she loves it there
Some of those little restaurants have awesome food and the Sunday flea market is pretty cool
The area on Blackwell Street past Salem that runs behind where Shop Rite in Rockaway on the border is...Don't know if I'd want to be there at night but I don't recall to many homes there
What is your point? I said that its a pretty decent town, but has a lot of mexicans/hispanics and they speak spanish. What is the big issue with that? Your sitting here calling me a racist for no reason.
The guy said that he found the info people gave to be useful. I was just throwing out some general info on the area that people are gonna want to know if they are considering moving there.... Geez. Talk about being overly sensitive
Please do not put words in my mouth sir! Kindly show me where I called you a racist? You cannot because I did no such thing. Ethno-centrism and racism are two very different things.
Dover is 48% hispanic, I believe. It has a lower than average crime rate when compared to the national trend. My profession takes me to Dover frequently to work with clients. In my experience, most of the hispanics I have dealt with also speak English, albeit with varying degrees of proficiency. I have not encountered any neighborhood in Dover that I would classify as dangerous. But that could be a matter of perspective because I am a life-long Newark resident; Newark's crime rate is significantly higher than Dover's.
The op mentioned Middlesex county. What about Piscataway? Culturally varied and very diverse in terms of ethnicity and it is safe. Centrally located with a relatively low tax rate. Several distinct neighborhoods each with a different flavor. Several major highways run through or near it. Many affordable nice homes currently for sale. Worth checking out.
Morristown has a couple of patches to avoid. martin luther king ave is one, speedwell ave another, and across the street from the train station. indeed there is a gang issue, just not as bad as the more urban areas.
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