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Old 12-19-2011, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Doubtful. First of all, she was walking with both hands filled with grocery bags. Second, the shock of someone dousing you with gasoline. Third, before she would even be able to get the gun out of her pocket or purse, the lunatic would have already flicked the fireplace starter and she'd be on fire.

Don't always think "oh, I have a gun. I'm safe from anything". Biggest BS ever.
Yup the cops say she didn't have a chance. The elevator is burned to a crisp. Being burned alive is probably the most gruesome way to die since all of your nerves are being impacted at once.
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:39 AM
 
Location: No Sleep Til Brooklyn
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Sadly, this tragedy reminds me of another murder by a disgruntled ex-"employee":
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/04/ny...-shooting.html
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Old 12-19-2011, 02:12 PM
 
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Purse?
My wife's firearm is on her side.
....and the grocery bags would have been dropped the second she felt danger.
I never said that having a gun makes you "safe from anything"...but if that were my wife, she'd be alive today.
....and HIS family would be planning the funeral.
I said "pocket or purse". And keep hoping your wife would have reacted as quickly as you hope she would. When you're in a situation like that, it takes a moment or two to react due to the initial shock of what is happening. That is, unless a person is WAITING for trouble to happen and then you have a disaster waiting to happen because this person would be more likely than not to shoot a person in a panic, thinking they posed some kind of threat.
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Old 12-19-2011, 02:17 PM
 
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Purse?
My wife's firearm is on her side.
....and the grocery bags would have been dropped the second she felt danger.
I never said that having a gun makes you "safe from anything"...but if that were my wife, she'd be alive today.
....and HIS family would be planning the funeral.

I said "pocket or purse", not just "purse". And keep hoping your wife would have reacted as quickly as you hope she would. When you're in a situation like that, it takes a moment or two to react due to the initial shock of what is happening. That is, unless a person is WAITING for trouble to happen and then you have a disaster waiting to happen because this person would be more likely than not to shoot a person in a panic, thinking they posed some kind of threat.
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Old 12-19-2011, 03:12 PM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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So what's gonna happen to this dude?
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Old 12-19-2011, 03:15 PM
 
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So what's gonna happen to this dude?

He'll probably get enough time for it to be a life sentence w/o parole. I don't think they do straight up "life" in NYS and I'm pretty sure there's no death penalty in NYS. I think they give 25 to Life or flat sentences like 25 years or 30 years or whatever. They'll probably give him so many charges and run all the sentences consecutively so he'll never get the chance to get out.

A person like him deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his miserable existence.
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Old 12-20-2011, 04:55 AM
 
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I heard on the news yesterday that he did this because he claims the woman owed him 2K for some work he did. Okay, did this moron think he was going to get his 2K by lighting her on fire??? Did he think he was going to get away with this at all????? I just can't get over the thought processes of some people.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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I heard on the news yesterday that he did this because he claims the woman owed him 2K for some work he did. Okay, did this moron think he was going to get his 2K by lighting her on fire??? Did he think he was going to get away with this at all????? I just can't get over the thought processes of some people.
There is no rational thought process in a sick mind altough some claim there is a method in everyones madness.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:24 AM
 
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Purse?
My wife's firearm is on her side.
....and the grocery bags would have been dropped the second she felt danger.
I never said that having a gun makes you "safe from anything"...but if that were my wife, she'd be alive today.
....and HIS family would be planning the funeral.

Aren't you forgetting something?

Unless, and that's a big unless, the elevator door was still open allowing her to escape and at the same time going for her gun hoping this crazed person isn't following her outside the door so she could gain enough distance to fire off a shot because Lord knows if the elevator door is closed and he has already squirted gas (she would have to wait in order for it to be justified) the spark from the gun would be enough to light him with the 5-10 gallons of gas and her on fire!

Guns wouldn't help in this matter.
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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He is "merely" insane.
Back when we were a more sane society, such a person would have been cared for in an institution, but care is expensive so he is on the streets...along with thousands more who in the 1950's and 1960's would have been institutionalized for most of their lives.

I think of the Lily Tomlin skit where she is a homeless baglady who confesses she used to be insane and institutionalized but then Ronald Reagan became president and now was declared sane...and on the streets.
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