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Old 06-09-2012, 08:24 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood, CA
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i think this is a huge problem in the city. seriously, almost everywhere u go theres litter everywhere.

first, i dont understand why people **** where they eat (excuse my language) but i think the city needs to tackle this problem aggressively.

i understand that theres a lot of people here and a lot of tourists but seriously, its ugly and disgusting.

people need to start fining more often. idk...

what do u guys think?
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Old 06-09-2012, 08:28 PM
 
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Yeah, I can see how that would work.

NY Finest: Hey, you, with that food wrapper!
Sucker: Yeah?
NY Finest: I'm giving you a summons for littering!
Sucker: Littering? I'm still holding it.
NY Finest: You were gonna drop it, I know it.
Sucker: Huh????
NY Finest: Shut your trap! <WHACK> (hits sucker on arm. sucker drops food wrapper)
NY Finest: See, I knew you'd be littering. And I'm adding a summons for disorderly conduct <thunk> (kicks sucker in nuts)
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:16 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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There are simply too many people in NYC. NYC has a higher population than most states. NYC can't afford to hire the litter police, so they tend to fine those people who end up with the highest in fines: Business owners. Just take a walk down any commercial strip with small stores an hour before they open. You will see tons of Dept of Sanitation vehicles waiting to give out tickets to those stores that didnt sweep in front of their stores including 18" into the street. If thats not enough they go after homeowners and ticket them for a ton of infractions like putting it out too early, not tying it up correctly, putting out the wrong type of trash, etc. If thats not enough then they stand near city trash cans and watch for people who put the wrong type of trash in there (just google the story about the woman who threw out a newspaper in a city trash can). So basically the city goes for the biggest bang for the buck.

Just look at Toronto which 20 years ago was known for their excessively clean city. But now its filthy.

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Unkempt, unclean and untidy. An apt description for too many Toronto
streets these days.

Wander down Yonge St., along Queen St. W. or up University Ave. Take a
stroll through your neighbourhood and local park. Ride the subway, the
GO train or a TTC bus.

You'll find them all littered with coffee cups, pop cans, juice
bottles, cigarette butts, newspapers and food wrappers — the detritus
of everyday life tossed by the wayside, in the gutter and on the
sidewalk.

How did it get so bad? When did we stop caring about the look of our
city?

Not so long ago we boasted that our city was the cleanest in North
America. Today, we've got nothing to brag about.

Don't blame this summer's garbage strike. We were looking shabby long
before that — and long after it.

Two years ago, it got so bad that the mayor launched the Clean Toronto
Campaign. Council added hundreds of street corner garbage cans, hired
summer litter pickers and bought more vacuum machines to suck up
trash. There was also a campaign urging residents to do the "T.O.
Toss."

It was an ambitious effort. Yet you'd never know it by the look of the
streets today.

City staff blame a number of factors for the worsening problem.

For starters, there are more people living downtown — 10,000 more
since 1996 — and there'll be many more as new condo towers are
completed. In the last five years, the number of people working
downtown has gone up by 42,606. The entertainment district now hums
virtually around the clock.

More people means more litter. And despite the extra resources, the
city's efforts haven't keep pace.

But the biggest problem is people too lazy to carry their empty cup or
chip bag a few feet to a trash bin. Instead, they drop it where they
please.

"There was once a strong social conscience about not littering," says
Angelos Bacopoulos, the city official in charge of picking up after us
all. "The pride that citizens used to have in the city of Toronto just
isn't there."

Next month, the works department will take another kick at the
trashcan with a new anti-litter campaign.

That effort must include a serious commitment from council to dedicate
more crews and equipment to clean-up duty. Some parks haven't seen a
city cleanup crew in years, leaving the nearby residents to clear the
mess left by others. A clean street and park is a great deterrent to a
litterbug.

The TTC moves 650,000 riders a day. So why is it impossible to find a
place to recycle a pop can in subway stations? It's time the TTC
installed recycling bins in its system. More trashcans would be
appreciated, too.

Businesses and homeowners should be told to keep their properties
clean. Fast-food outlets and variety stores should be ordered to
provide enough waste bins for customers.

Most importantly, we have to stop treating our streets, alleys,
ravines and parks as our personal trashcans.

Our sloppy habits are making a mess of this city.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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86TH Street & Bay Parkway here in Brooklyn is disgusting.
So-Ho along Broadway is filthy.


Maybe if our dumb Mayor would stop thinking of things to ban, and focus more on the dept of sanitation we would have a cleaner place to live.

Just this past Saturday, the garbage men were collecting garbage on my block, one of them dropped a bag and it broke, thus crap falling out, he left it right in the street and the truck proceeded to the next house.

It is Monday morning and the garbage has since been flatten to a pulp by cars running over it.
It will be there till the next rainstorm.


Along out highway entrances here in Brooklyn, the littler has been accumulating for years, yet nothing.


Yes, our sanitation dept is doing a lousy job, not that the people of the NYC are any better since litter does not just walk into the street by itself.

but the mayor really does need to do something about the litter in in NYC, it is disgusting. Why not give out fines for littering....
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:18 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Well if you follow this link, the building owners are the the ones required to keep the sidewalks clean and not the Dept of Sanitation.

http://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2006/new-york-city-administrative-code-new/adc016-118_16-118.html

According to this link, NYrs are only required to keep the sidewalk clean between 8am&9am and 12pm&1pm (or if the law changed 6pm&7pm). Past that it doesn't matter. Outside of the NYPD who attach littering as a secondary offense to something else the DOS has 15 people who wander the five boros.

http://newyorkgarbage.wordpress.com/litter-policy/

So who gets the fines? Not the people doing the littering. They ticket the property owners for upwards of $250 each time for not cleaning up someone elses trash during the specified hours.

As to city owned property, do you really think they would ticket themselves for litter cleanup? They rarely even mow the weeds growing on the sides of highways.
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