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Are you saying it should take two officers with weapons (batons) minutes to beat a man in order to get him into cuffs?
The guy was combative and physcially resisting arrest when the officers tried to cuff him. I blame
the female officer here because she was pretty much useless in the video. The older male officer
was basically on his own against the much younger guy who was resisting arrest all the way till the
end. I feel sorry for the male officer for doing all the dirty work and now gets blame for everything.
If the female officer was of any help they could easily get the situation under control before all these
mess.
The man shook his fist in the face of the officer, chest thumped him & took a fighting stance. The officer decked him. The man simply had to leave the building (the first request, as you can see from the hand gestures of both officers) or submit to arrest when he refused to leave. He did not give up until the sergeant arrived to help subdue him. The female officer was little help. She appeared unable to control either arm or the man, pepper-sprayed him, and struck him with her expandable baton. Of course, it's the male officer who is on desk duty.
Why should he have left? He was given permission to stay there by the owners.
Why should he have left? He was given permission to stay there by the owners.
The security guard apparently didn't know that because he called the police to remove the man. What more should the police do in these situations from now on? Should security guards not be enough of a complainant? Imagine the fallout from that change in policy. No more action taken regarding suspicious persons until at 3am the police can contact the owner of a building. How do you see that working out?
The security guard apparently didn't know that because he called the police to remove the man. What more should the police do in these situations from now on? Should security guards not be enough of a complainant? Imagine the fallout from that change in policy. No more action taken regarding suspicious persons until at 3am the police can contact the owner of a building. How do you see that working out?
Well wouldn't you be angry if someone told you to leave when you had a right to be where you were? He was charged with criminal trespass, that was a false charge.
I'd definitely be angry. So how do the police deal with this? A security guard for the building saying the guy doesn't belong, and a guy with no shirt screaming that he's allowed to be there then pushing them. So explain how the cops get out of this one without Nei and assorted others calling them nazis? See the point? Reality is cops on the scene don't know what you know only mere hours later. So what's the fix?
The man shook his fist in the face of the officer, chest thumped him & took a fighting stance. The officer decked him.
You see what I mean? There's always someone willing to justify the most egregious police action. Once you've decided the cops are always right, you can justify anything. Including a cop hauling off and decking a guy right in the face, then pouncing on top of him and pounding on him.
Chest thumped him? He moves tries to avoid being handcuffed, and he pushes the cop's hands off him. The cop then pulls his fist back as if to slug him, and the guy takes a defensive stance (and backs into the corner) at that point. Then the cop actually does slug him and jump on him. Then once the cop has him down, the cop kidney punches him a whole bunch of times; we can't see what the guy being punched is doing. No chest thumping involved.
You see what I mean? There's always someone willing to justify the most egregious police action. Once you've decided the cops are always right, you can justify anything. Including a cop hauling off and decking a guy right in the face, then pouncing on top of him and pounding on him.
Conversely, there's always someone willing to castigate the police for having to subdue some schlump, who wants to battle them.
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Originally Posted by nybbler
Chest thumped him? ... No chest thumping involved.
You're wrong. It's there on the video, 2:12 on the 5:56 video. I can't explain why you are unable to recognize it.
Last edited by bigjake54; 10-18-2012 at 01:00 AM..
You're wrong. It's there on the video, 2:12 on the 5:56 video. I can't explain why you are unable to recognize it.
No chest thump. He pushes the cops arms away, which of course pisses the cop off to no end, at which point the cop throws his handcuffs down on the floor and starts the punching.
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