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Is NYC really that much of a Police City-State? Not until you kill a couple of people.
Joking aside -- I don't know where you're from, but I see more regulation in Georgia, Florida, Texas for example, than in NYC. I work in real estate / construction / investments.
In NY you can be a lot freer than the sticks, where everybody knows your business. Isn't freedom from interference, or social pressure, a big part of personal freedom?
DUH... Nyc is not a police state. A police state wouldn't have put up with OWS and other protesters. A police state wouldn't allow these guys to scream much less carry signs and squat in private parks.
DUH... Nyc is not a police state. A police state wouldn't have put up with OWS and other protesters. A police state wouldn't allow these guys to scream much less carry signs and squat in private parks.
In the end, it didn't.
(And it was not in any real sense a "private park.")
the police very much shut down Occupy Wall Street.
I guess the police and their meatheaded commissioner never bothered to read:
Quote:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
There was a reason that this is the very FIRST amendment to the constitution's the Bill of Rights: so that even the most stupid persons could find it.
An attack on the Bill of Rights DE FACTO establishes a police state.
I'm not sure I totally understand your question, but in theory the really right thing to do would be to live in the problem area and fight against it as much as possible.
Speaking of The New Yorker, this is straying slightly, but I'm just reading a article from January by Peter Hessler about Egypt, and he mentions that Egypt is one of the most policed states in the world, citing some statistics about the number of people employed in security. I have a feeling that if you took the U.S. numbers, including everyone - not just the FBI, CIA, and police, but also TSA secretaries, campus guards, bank guards, museum guards, guards at library exits, people watching security cameras, IT anti-hacking staff, people at building lobby desks, people who train guard dogs, people who manufacture machines that made ID cards - we'd be up near the top, too.
Yep. By some count we got about 3 million law enforcement. As a country, we have the biggest police state in the world.
NY, on the other hand, is very fluid, transient, fast, on the move, 24x7, and so police stateness is not as obvious. However, they will be there the moment your toe steps out of line.
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