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Arverne-By-The-Sea development faced heavy local opposition when it was first announced. That development hasn't succeeded the way it was intended to (it was supposed to be a starting point for a string of similar developments down the Rockaways,) so I don't know if people still care about it.
Arverne-By-The-Sea development faced heavy local opposition when it was first announced. That development hasn't succeeded the way it was intended to (it was supposed to be a starting point for a string of similar developments down the Rockaways,) so I don't know if people still care about it.
Because I divide the North/South of the Rockaways, it terms of how affluent it is. Averne is at that border. To me North Rockaway is Averne and to the North, while South Rockaway is everything south of Averne. There's probably a more accurate way of dividing the Rockaways, but thats how I do it.
Because I divide the North/South of the Rockaways, it terms of how affluent it is. Averne is at that border. To me North Rockaway is Averne and to the North, while South Rockaway is everything south of Averne. There's probably a more accurate way of dividing the Rockaways, but thats how I do it.
Have you looked at the map? The Rockaways go from East to West, with Arverne being in the middle. Also, there were developments of new homes in Edgemere before Arverne by the Sea was built. We'll have to see the long term effects of Sandy on the area, as Sandy has certain depressed prices big time and speculative investors have come in.
In order to get homeowners insurance, a lot of homes have to be put on stilts. People have been selling a losses if they cannot afford to put their houses on stilts. Homes that are uninsurable banks will not issue mortgages on, so they end up getting sold to speculative investors. I think a lot of homes may end up summer beach homes.
And of course, the A train being down for so long, as well as the traffic problems haven't helped the real estate in the Rockaways, either.
Arverne-By-The-Sea development faced heavy local opposition when it was first announced. That development hasn't succeeded the way it was intended to (it was supposed to be a starting point for a string of similar developments down the Rockaways,) so I don't know if people still care about it.
There would not be a NYC if you actually listened to public opinion. Robert Moses had one thing right, never let public opinion get in the way of everything. Every major project has always had "heavy" local opposition.
Arverne by the Sea was built on top of formerly weed and garbage filled lots. It wasn't like the homes and new businesses were destroying something beautiful.
Have you looked at the map? The Rockaways go from East to West, with Arverne being in the middle. Also, there were developments of new homes in Edgemere before Arverne by the Sea was built. We'll have to see the long term effects of Sandy on the area, as Sandy has certain depressed prices big time and speculative investors have come in.
In order to get homeowners insurance, a lot of homes have to be put on stilts. People have been selling a losses if they cannot afford to put their houses on stilts. Homes that are uninsurable banks will not issue mortgages on, so they end up getting sold to speculative investors. I think a lot of homes may end up summer beach homes.
And of course, the A train being down for so long, as well as the traffic problems haven't helped the real estate in the Rockaways, either.
Yes, I'm aware that the Rockaways actually run East to West. That's why in my original post, I said West/South, North/East. Its just a force of habit when I say North Rockaway/South Rockaway, I should really say West Rockaway/ East Rockaway. I use Arverne as a division between the two. I'm aware of the developments that came before Arverne, but it was only once ABTS was developed that talk of developing further along the Rockaways really got going. However, ABTS wasn't the hit they were expecting so those plans died down. And with the aftermath of Sandy, I'm not sure where the Rockaways are heading now. They can either head the summer route home, like you're suggesting, or the cheap land prices might actually spur development once we're further away from the memory of Sandy. If and when, more development does come to the Rockaways, I don't see the people of Breezy Point, Neponsit and the other western Rockaway neighborhoods being too happy about the increase of density. That was my only point.
There would not be a NYC if you actually listened to public opinion. Robert Moses had one thing right, never let public opinion get in the way of everything. Every major project has always had "heavy" local opposition.
Arverne by the Sea was built on top of formerly weed and garbage filled lots. It wasn't like the homes and new businesses were destroying something beautiful.
This is true. NIMBY'ers oppose everything in the city. The difference being, though, is the NIMBY'ers with money, like those of Western Rockaways, have a chance of putting a stop to developments. The plan to extend the N in Queens has been shot down multiple times over the decades because of the influence of affluent residents. The chance of NIMBY'ers stopping the future developments in Willets Points and Flushing Meadows Park, is slim to to none. It isn't unimaginable for the residents of the West Rockaways to put stop to developments in their part of the Rockaways.
Arverne-By-The-Sea development faced heavy local opposition when it was first announced. That development hasn't succeeded the way it was intended to (it was supposed to be a starting point for a string of similar developments down the Rockaways,) so I don't know if people still care about it.
What are you talking about....what opposition? The place was literally barren....just roads and weeds. When I was little you could drive from Beach 61st to Beach 73rd without passing a building. what, the NIMBYs preferred open lots to development? Sorry but you're mistaken. And this is somebody who's lived here his entire life. If there was any opposition, it was people in the projects thinking that the city was gonna seize their land, and raze the projects, but thats it.
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