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Old 07-15-2013, 03:45 PM
 
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have you noticed that the eastern half of The Bronx east of the Bronx River from Wakefield all the down to Clason's Point, and extending east to Throgs Neck and encompassing the communities of Williamsbridge, Eastchester, Baychester, Pelham Gardens, Allerton etc (I don't have to name all the communities many of you know what I a referring to) have those brown or red brick attached houses, whereas you see much less of them in the communities west of The Bronx River.

you do see them in the western half tho. for example, on W 252 street and Broadway in central Riverdale across the street from my apartment house is a row of attached brick homes with the little red/pink awning so typical of communities like Wakefield. they are scattered throughout N Riverdale like around W 259th street and Fieldston Rd, there are even some on Johnson Ave near 232nd street. they are all over Kingsbridge west of B'way.

these homes always screamed "Italian" to me because i associate them with the eastern half the Bronx which was always predominantly Italian.

curious tho, when the western half of The Bronx had more whites, what was the ethnic makeup of these brown/red brick homes say in Kingsbridge and Riverdale? its silly of me to say Italian because that's just a stereotype.

my dad used to say that in older times the Jews and Irish generally lived in the bldgs while the Italians were in the homes

he was a Brooklynite and he was not familiar with The Bronx so he might have been off

any history here?
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:14 PM
 
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Well Kingsbridge (in the Bronx), and Riverdale were mainly Jewish and Irish back in the day. It's still true with most of Riverdale and less so in Kingsbridge with the influx of the Hispanics.

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Old 07-15-2013, 07:37 PM
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Irish, if this author's memory is accurate:

The pope of Kingsbridge | Capital New York

Mentions some Jews, too.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:03 PM
 
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great article. i didn't realize that Kingsbridge Rd and University Ave was that bad in 1982 with remaining residents getting mugged and cleaned out by robbers.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:08 PM
 
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Which type of brick rowhouses exactly?

The East Bronx has a lot of housing variety, and neighborhoods range quite a bit in density and composition. Most neighborhoods near the elevated rapid transit lines are similar in build and as dense as the West Bronx, while areas farther from the El mostly developed later and vary more significantly in architecture and build.
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:28 AM
 
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great article. i didn't realize that Kingsbridge Rd and University Ave was that bad in 1982 with remaining residents getting mugged and cleaned out by robbers.

Yes, and if you listen to SOBRO he would tell this guy that he too suffers from an enlarged immagination about the decline in quality of life, safety and civility when the demographics changed in my old area of the Bronx.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:36 AM
 
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The buildings you speak of in the east Bronx were built mainly built in the 1950s I think. They are more prevalent in the east Bronx since it was developed later than the west Bronx. For instance, the house we live in (in Bedford Park) was constructed in the late 1800s. The Times had a habitats about someone living in one of these houses for many years:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/08/re...mns%2fHabitats

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Old 07-17-2013, 03:38 PM
 
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interesting article. that guy sounds like me with his interests in maps and city history
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:41 PM
 
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Webster Guy or others would you say University and K'bridge Rd is as bad today as it was in 1982? i always read about robberies and stickups in that area but not about robbers cleaning people out.
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