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Old 07-23-2013, 05:05 PM
 
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Does China have an equivalent to OSHA? It's easy to build lightning fast when you're cutting corners...at least once a year you hear of some major construction accident:

More deaths caused by lax Chinese safety laws as 19 workers are killed when metal lift plummets 30 floors | Mail Online
Probably not to the extent here that it would so significantly impair the project progress. Having OSHA does not explain to me why some of the streets in lower Manhattan have been dug up and fended for over a year with cars and pedestrians jammed into one rugged lane. It seems to me just an excuse to an extremely low public efficiency than anything else.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:23 PM
 
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You're confusing "new" with "great". Hence the rush to demolish the old and put up the new. Fast forward 15 years and see how the residents of Beijing feel about their courtyard houses and communities being demolished and taken from them to live in one of the committee-planned innumerable hi-rise living boxes (trailer parks in the sky). Only in retropsect will it be seen what was lost. Learning from other's mistakes - not going to happen.

We could demolish the Brooklyn Bridge and put up a new one that needs less maintenance and looks shiny. But we're not going to.

maybe I just did not get the standards that some people used to claim NYC as "the greatest city in the world". Anyway, I see some great elements of NYC and in the meanwhile a lot of subpar elements that easily conflicts with its title being the "the greatest city in the world".
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:29 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Needs an A train expansion into Riverdale and a few other adjustments.

Lines will likely expand, the question is how long? Funding is the biggest issue. Congestion Pricing seals the deal on the 2nd Ave subway but the other lines will needed sources of revenue too.
No Bro. The A train is the longest train line in our subway system. We need to shorten it. Make the A train from 207st to Jay st. Then create another train to service BK and Queens.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:38 PM
 
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No Bro. The A train is the longest train line in our subway system. We need to shorten it. Make the A train from 207st to Jay st. Then create another train to service BK and Queens.

That is a good idea. Why not build some direct lines between Brooklyn and Queens besides the G line?
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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No Bro. The A train is the longest train line in our subway system. We need to shorten it. Make the A train from 207st to Jay st. Then create another train to service BK and Queens.
Why would this make any difference at all? The only thing that would happen is people going farther than Jay St. would have to transfer...
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:30 PM
 
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The NYC subway system is much older and adding onto it is completely different than building a relatively newer system like in Beijing. Also as already mentioned the Chinese Government can just move people out the way easily to do whatever construction it wants which quite different than in the USA.
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:49 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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I'd be happy if they're able to shorten headways, finish all the phases of the SAS, make the Triboro RX (it's so cost-effective and serves many new areas, so why not?), expand the CityTicket program for the commuter rail lines beyond weekends, and build a connecting station between the G and the J/M where the lines cross each other. I guess that's a pretty full plate.
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Ubique
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We don't build anymore because we elected politicians who can't build ****, and who made it almost impossible or too costly to build -- unions, red tape, etc. etc.
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:50 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Even in 30 years? Look at Beijing built five lines in five years and we're still building one line for the past five years and much more to come. (2nd ave)

future NYC Subway | vanshnookenraggen
This site has been around for a long time, the guy is basically putting all his fantasies out there, and he's incorporated some ideas that have been circulating as they come up. From the lines he illustrates, these are the ones that really should be built, in order of importance:

1) Extend the 7 from Javits to Secaucus, NJ
- the economic boom to NJ would be off the charts and NYC would greatly benefit as well

2) Extend the 7 train to Bayside
- Bayside has zero subway access and would really benefit

3) Build the X line linking Queens to the Bronx over the Hell Gate Bridge
- there is no way to get to the Bronx right now from Queens or Brooklyn without a huge detour through Manhattan. This would be very good the economies of the outer boroughs

4) Extend the NW trains in Queens all the way to Laguardia airport
- more of a luxury than economic engine, but a one ticket ride from manhattan to the airport would be nice


These 4 projects can plausibly find financing and would really beneficial to everyone
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:49 PM
 
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We have rules, regulations, red tapes, unions, and not enough money. The Chinese can build a second Great Wall before MTA finish the second avenue subway.
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