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Old 08-16-2019, 04:37 AM
 
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I was born in Briarwood. It seems to have remained a solidly diverse middle class area just as it was in the 80s. Laurelton, Ozone Park, and Richmond Hill all seem plenty nice. It's South Ozone Park by the airport that seems to have collapsed. Broad Channel is a working class Irish area (cop/fireman set). I agree w/ the rest of this list except that DT Jamaica is turning around.
SOP below Rockaway Blvd has quite a few McMansions being built by the Hindus. I couldn't believe it, luxury cars in the driveways as well. Most of the area still sucks, though.
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:11 AM
 
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10 Worst Neighborhoods in Queens (not in any particular order)

1. Jamaica (the south part is just ghetto af)
2. Far Rockaway
3. Arverne
4. Broad Channel (Although I feel like the neighborhood is getting slightly better)
5. Richmond Hill (including south)
6. Ozone Park (including south)
7. Rosedale
8. Springfield Gardens
9. Laurelton
10.Briarwood



7. Rosedale
8. Springfield Gardens
9. Laurelton



You have to be joking right? I've felt much safer walking around desolate blocks in these areas (7,8,9) in the dead of night than I have in Jackson Heights, East Elmhurst, Corona, Sunnyside and Woodhaven during the DAY. Statistically, the neighborhoods I just mentioned in western Queens have higher crime. Look at crime maps.

The stakes are much lower in Rosedale, Springfield Gardens and Laurelton. Bigger houses, working class and professional families, single-family homes (though developers are tearing down tudors to build ugly multi-families). It's more dangerous to be caught on Austin Street in Forest Hills or 63rd Drive in Rego Park or anywhere in Elmhurst, Corona, Wooside and Sunnyside than any of the entire neighborhoods in Southeastern Queens you listed.
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:18 AM
 
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SOP below Rockaway Blvd has quite a few McMansions being built by the Hindus. I couldn't believe it, luxury cars in the driveways as well. Most of the area still sucks, though.
Give it about 30-40 years, the entire southwestern Queens/City Line area of Brooklyn will be mostly southwest Asian demographic
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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Give it about 30-40 years, the entire southwestern Queens/City Line area of Brooklyn will be mostly southwest Asian demographic
Your right It kind of already is in transition , a lot of Richmond hill and ozone park is Indian/Bengali or indo Caribbean and City line has a lot of them now too .
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:05 AM
 
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7. Rosedale
8. Springfield Gardens
9. Laurelton



You have to be joking right? I've felt much safer walking around desolate blocks in these areas (7,8,9) in the dead of night than I have in Jackson Heights, East Elmhurst, Corona, Sunnyside and Woodhaven during the DAY. Statistically, the neighborhoods I just mentioned in western Queens have higher crime. Look at crime maps.

The stakes are much lower in Rosedale, Springfield Gardens and Laurelton. Bigger houses, working class and professional families, single-family homes (though developers are tearing down tudors to build ugly multi-families). It's more dangerous to be caught on Austin Street in Forest Hills or 63rd Drive in Rego Park or anywhere in Elmhurst, Corona, Wooside and Sunnyside than any of the entire neighborhoods in Southeastern Queens you listed.
Agreed , those neighborhoods are pretty dead usually . They remind me of Long Island . I think those 3 specifically may have bad reps maybe because gangs from neighboring south Jamaica and rochdale area have people over there so it’s resulted in some robberies and shootings . But In general those are all pretty safe and high income
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:16 AM
 
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Agreed , those neighborhoods are pretty dead usually . They remind me of Long Island . I think those 3 specifically may have bad reps maybe because gangs from neighboring south Jamaica and rochdale area have people over there so it’s resulted in some robberies and shootings . But In general those are all pretty safe and high income
That and for the demographics of the neighborhoods. They see a certain look or shade, or maybe teens dressing a certain way in those areas and automatically assume "bad neighborhood". Those areas have always been solidly middle - upper middle class... Safer than a lot of in-demand Western Queens neighborhood because of their proximity to Manhattan and denser retail corridors.

This is a 2006 article from the New York Times about Cambria Heights and St. Albans.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/n.../01census.html

South Jamaica and Rochdale on the other hand have always been not-so-great socio-economically, but even that is changing because of development in Jamaica proper, Atlantic Ticket (re-appreciation/re-discovery of the LIRR as a reliable commuting option), and the AIR TRAIN. Housing prices are slowly creeping up even in places like South Jamaica.

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Old 08-16-2019, 07:47 AM
 
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That and for the demographics of the neighborhoods. They see a certain look or shade, or maybe teens dressing a certain way in those areas and automatically assume "bad neighborhood". Those areas have always been solidly middle - upper middle class... Safer than a lot of in-demand Western Queens neighborhood because of their proximity to Manhattan and denser retail corridors.

This is a 2006 article from the New York Times about Cambria Heights and St. Albans.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/n.../01census.html

South Jamaica and Rochdale on the other hand have always been not-so-great socio-economically, but even that is changing because of development in Jamaica proper, Atlantic Ticket (re-appreciation/re-discovery of the LIRR as a reliable commuting option), and the AIR TRAIN. Housing prices are slowly creeping up even in places like South Jamaica.
Anybody that says Rosedale is bad is talking out of their ass

I dare anybody to find a turn-key SFH w/driveway in Rosedale for under $600K
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:54 AM
 
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No offense to Chinese immigrants with money, as they are very nice people, but they just don't want to be "American" in the historical sense of the world.
I know what you're saying but having known many Korean and Chinese people over the years they are as American as anyone else. Maybe not the ones that moved here at a later age, but definitely their children or those that moved at a young age Americanize quickly. They do the 4th of July thing and celebrate thanksgiving like everyone else alongside maintaining their Asian heritage
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:00 AM
 
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Give it about 30-40 years, the entire southwestern Queens/City Line area of Brooklyn will be mostly southwest Asian demographic
Do you think that long? I'd give it maybe 15 years. Hey, the Indian restaurants up along intersection of Atlantic Ave and Lefferts Blvd are some of the best in the city. There are about 8 of them in the intersection. Would be a foodie destination if there was Subway access and better parking.
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:02 AM
 
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Do you think that long? I'd give it maybe 15 years. Hey, the Indian restaurants up along intersection of Atlantic Ave and Lefferts Blvd are some of the best in the city. There are about 8 of them in the intersection. Would be a foodie destination if there was Subway access and better parking.
Yes that long, because of Howard Beach and Lindenwood

But in the long run, in 50 years everything south of Atlantic Avenue will be mostly Black or southwest Asian/Indian subcontinent
Everything north of Atlantic Avenue will be mostly east Asian/Hispanic
Everything west of Flushing Meadows Park/Queens Center Mall will be mostly transplants

We're slowly adapting the European model

Which is a feat within itself because NYC is an archipelago.
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