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Using your rental apartment as a hotel has always been illegal by NYC housing codes, and apparently most municipalities also have rules against it
So what is your point?
Actually they can stop it. The office of special enforcement will walk right into your apartment and inspect, and if deemed illegal usage they will fine you.
Unfortunately they only go after landlords. They need to screw tenants too.
You missed the point, all this renting has been going on for decades here. I don't believe it's the govt's job to step in. It's your building management's to uphold building rules.
I've been renting out my apt for many years when I lived in Chelsea with no issues. People email me availability and I give them the rates and it's great way to support your rent.
If Airbnb gets blocked or limited, there will be other venues and even through social media. You can't curb supply as long as there is demand. Restrictions simply makes it even more profitable to run these things.
You missed the point, all this renting has been going on for decades here. I don't believe it's the govt's job to step in. It's your building management's to uphold building rules.
I've been renting out my apt for many years when I lived in Chelsea with no issues. People email me availability and I give them the rates and it's great way to support your rent.
If Airbnb gets blocked or limited, there will be other venues and even through social media. You can't curb supply as long as there is demand. Restrictions simply makes it even more profitable to run these things.
Out of curiosity is your apt rent stabilized?
Of course the govt has to step in, most people are inconsiderate and only care about themselves. So we need zoning laws to make sure homes are not turned into hotels. That's where zoning laws come in and them getting enforced.
@OP - If you lived in a doorman building in chelsea, I'd report you to the concierge immediately and get you evicted. People with your thought process who refuse to get a job are the worst. Find a legal way to make an income. Your Chelsea pad isn't the Hilton or 4 Seasons.
Hopefully one of your illegally guest will bring bed bugs into your apartment and they start bitting you endlessly.
I don't think AirBnb should be prohibited completely but there definitely needs to be new laws to regulate it. Renting out an apartment you rent yourself on a short term basis should definitely not be allowed especially if the unit is rent stabilized. As far as condos or coops, perhaps you should be required to buy some type of insurance in case the people you rent to cause some damage that affects the other residents.
Actually, renting out a rent stabilized unit is perfectly legal provided the person doesn't make more than a 10% off of the rental.
The rest of the stuff you said regarding insurance and co-ops and condos is spot on. Airbnb will have to be regulated, plain and simple.
You missed the point, all this renting has been going on for decades here. I don't believe it's the govt's job to step in. It's your building management's to uphold building rules.
I've been renting out my apt for many years when I lived in Chelsea with no issues. People email me availability and I give them the rates and it's great way to support your rent.
If Airbnb gets blocked or limited, there will be other venues and even through social media. You can't curb supply as long as there is demand. Restrictions simply makes it even more profitable to run these things.
Of course. You can also deal drugs out of your apartment or run a brothel to supplement your income. Just because the government may not be able to stop you does not make it legal or right.
Of course the govt has to step in, most people are inconsiderate and only care about themselves. So we need zoning laws to make sure homes are not turned into hotels. That's where zoning laws come in and them getting enforced.
Yes it was rent stabilized apt for $650, on the open market it can go for $2200-2800.
Most of the folks complaining just whining because they didn't get in on the cheap rent back in the 90s. Most of the folks I've rented to are cool and not messy. They come here because the hotels are all booked.
People that live in the Apt are all doing it or subletting so nobody want to knock on each other. The only thing is that we see some hoodlum then we report those people but most people living there all pocket good cash from their apts.
Yes it was rent stabilized apt for $650, on the open market it can go for $2200-2800.
Most of the folks complaining just whining because they didn't get in on the cheap rent back in the 90s. Most of the folks I've rented to are cool and not messy. They come here because the hotels are all booked.
People that live in the Apt are all doing it or subletting so nobody want to knock on each other. The only thing is that we see some hoodlum then we report those people but most people living there all pocket good cash from their apts.
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Originally Posted by vision33r
I just think it is ridiculous that I can't rent out my place on my own terms.
Ok, I figured you were RS. I don't understand how you think it's ridiculous that you can't rent out your place on YOUR terms. Yet your landlord, the person that ACTUALLY owns the property has no rights to rent on his own terms??
You rent & do not own. I am sure somewhere in your lease say this in some language. If it is rent stabilized I hope the law goes after these people!! If you rent it should be your primary residence. A rental is your landlords investment not yours. If caught & you get in trouble it could be on your permanent record & make it impossible to get a landlord to ever agree to rent to you again. How would you feel if you owned a property & trusted tenant only to have them use it like that? If they paid you say $1000 month in rent what would you do if you found out you tenant that you had a lease with rented it out for 3x as much to strangers & did not live there.
AirBnB needs better regulation. Really it is the hands of landlords to protect themselves anyway so if it happening right under them & the LL does not see it then they are not managing their property very well anyway. I rented out a home I OWNED, but was not an co-op or condo so did not have to worry about those rules at all. If I was renting I would check on it very often.
@OP - Your landlord should not renew your lease and you should leave when your lease is up so he can raise the rent to 5K which is the going rate in Chelsea.
Hopefully the LL will be enraged when he finds out how much you're pocketing off his property. You probably don't even work and just live off your airbnb money, don't you?
Must be annoying meeting random strangers every few days to give them the keys and then do laundry when they leave.
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