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Old 05-16-2015, 05:03 PM
 
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I know you get taxed a lot but do you get some of that money back during tax refunds?
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Old 05-16-2015, 06:34 PM
 
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City employees don't get taxed more than any other NYC resident. The only difference is that they have to pay the NYC income tax even if they live outside of the city - between 2.9% and 3.9% depending on income. You could get something back, if you overpaid, but that also has very little to do with who your employer is.
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Old 05-16-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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City employees don't get taxed more than any other NYC resident. The only difference is that they have to pay the NYC income tax even if they live outside of the city - between 2.9% and 3.9% depending on income. You could get something back, if you overpaid, but that also has very little to do with who your employer is.
So if someone lives in NJ but works for the City of New York, they're taxed both by NYC and NJ?
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Old 05-18-2015, 07:56 AM
 
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NYC employees must pay the "city waiver tax" if they live outside the city limits. It's basically the same as NYC income tax.
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:18 AM
 
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So if someone lives in NJ but works for the City of New York, they're taxed both by NYC and NJ?
Yes.

Everyone who lives in NJ but works in NYC gets "taxed" by both states. In practice NY tax is withheld from your paycheck and when you file your NJ return you take credit for it. On top of that, City employees get to pay the NYC income tax as if they were residents of the city.
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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Yes.

Everyone who lives in NJ but works in NYC gets "taxed" by both states. In practice NY tax is withheld from your paycheck and when you file your NJ return you take credit for it. On top of that, City employees get to pay the NYC income tax as if they were residents of the city.
To clarify, you wouldn't end up ever paying tax in NJ, with a few exceptions.

Someone who lives in NJ and works in NY (whether NYC or not) has NY state tax withheld from their paycheck. They get a credit in NJ for any taxes paid in NY. NJ and NY's tax rates are very similar, though NJ's are slightly higher at middle incomes and NY's are slightly higher at upper incomes. The person living in NJ but working in NY state would always end up paying the higher of the two, but it's not much difference (no more than $100 either way except at very high incomes (>$400k or so a year)).

Normally, you don't pay NYC tax if you don't live in NYC, so a person who lives in NJ and works in NYC is taxed the same way as a person who lives in NJ and works in NY state outside of NYC. However, if you work for the city government, you pay NYC tax regardless of residence. Thus, the person who lives in NJ and works for NYC government will pay NYS tax and NYC tax, but will get a credit for both against their NJ taxes and will thus never owe any tax to NJ (unless they have a separate source of income in NJ, such as taxable investments or a second job in NJ, which wouldn't be taxed in NYS or NYC).
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Old 05-18-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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City pays so little, how do they expect people to live here. I've looked up jobs for my position in the city and they're paying 30-50% below market rate. I'm sure the pension may make up for that but who knows if you can stay around to get that when I can make the 50% more in private companies and be way ahead. The salaries they pay barely supports a family of 3.
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Old 05-18-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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City pays so little, how do they expect people to live here. I've looked up jobs for my position in the city and they're paying 30-50% below market rate. I'm sure the pension may make up for that but who knows if you can stay around to get that when I can make the 50% more in private companies and be way ahead. The salaries they pay barely supports a family of 3.
Yes it pays lows but it's not only the pension that's a plus, you have the job security, less demanding work volume, union representative for most, medical benefits, holidays off and short work weeks. Most city workers have 35 hour work weeks. There are certain agencies and positions where you can get a lot of ot if you're a workaholic. City positions are ideal for families in my opinion.
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Old 05-18-2015, 10:12 AM
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Yes it pays lows but it's not only the pension that's a plus, you have the job security, less demanding work volume, union representative for most, medical benefits, holidays off and short work weeks. Most city workers have 35 hour work weeks. There are certain agencies and positions where you can get a lot of ot if you're a workaholic. City positions are ideal for families in my opinion.

Exactly! If you only look at pay you are just not being honest about the difference between private sector and city. They are all sorts of non-monetary benefits, which you have listed well.
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Old 05-18-2015, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I am a state not city employee and we do not get any special tax privileges with the exception of having access to certain pre-tax benefits like transportation, medical, etc. I would imagine it is the same for city employees. Teachers are eligible for some additional write-offs if I remember correctly such as paying for your own supplies etc.
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