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Old 12-11-2015, 07:08 PM
 
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If you ever wanted to be a NYC landlord, this story may persuade you that it's more trouble than it's worth. These scumbag tenants rented a 3 bedroom apartment in a house, then proceeded to renovate (using sheetrock and other regular building materials) to build floor to ceiling walls to create 10 separate bedrooms.

They then proceed to rent out all the tiny little hovel bedrooms on Airbnb for something like $35 per night. When the LL finds out, he locks out the original tenants and destroys the sheetrock walls... but then HE gets in trouble with the courts for illegal lockout.

Read the whole story - link below. Unbelievable that even after the LL knocked down the walls, the tenants then put up curtains to separate out 10 bedrooms and still rented out rooms.

These tenants are criminals. I hope the LL prevails.

Landlord claims tenants illegally turned three-bedroom apartment in Queens into 10 bedrooms | New York's PIX11 / WPIX-TV
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Old 12-11-2015, 07:22 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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I thought this one was really good:

The Worst Airbnb in the Universe: 22 Beds in One Apartment

What losers - both cases.

Regarding the first, illegal lock-out laws were meant to protect tenants - and they usually do.
Funny that I also know another case where someone took advantage of this unlawfully. And many more cases where people actually were illegally locked out.
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Old 12-11-2015, 07:31 PM
 
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I thought this one was really good:

The Worst Airbnb in the Universe: 22 Beds in One Apartment

What losers - both cases.

Regarding the first, illegal lock-out laws were meant to protect tenants - and they usually do.
Funny that I also know another case where someone took advantage of this unlawfully. And many more cases where people actually were illegally locked out.
Yes, of course most laws like that are going to be created to protect victims, and in most cases of lockouts, the victims would be the tenants. But in this case, the tenants are the criminals and ought never to be allowed back in the place. And hopefully after their lawful eviction, they will never again be able to rent anything in NYC. Good riddance.

It's most disgusting to me that after they were allowed back in by the judge that they proceeded to continue to break the law, only this time creating bedrooms out of curtains instead of sheetrock.
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Old 12-11-2015, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Gods country
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This is old news NYers have been doing this for years;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtsOQz2I09g
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Old 12-11-2015, 07:44 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Here is another story - 3-Bedroom Apartment Transformed Into 10-Bedroom Airbnb Hostel: Gothamist

One of the guys would seem to be an unemployed coder, the other a ne'er do well basically.

Hope the landlord can sue for damages.

Wonder if they are here legally. Where is Trump when you need him.
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Old 12-11-2015, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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That's so enterprising of them.
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Old 12-12-2015, 11:50 AM
 
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That is really interesting. I can't believe they went to those lengths to make a quick buck. I hope the judge throws the book at them.
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Old 12-13-2015, 09:45 PM
 
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Capitalism .... This is the Free Market at Work



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Old 12-13-2015, 11:14 PM
 
Location: NYC
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That is really interesting. I can't believe they went to those lengths to make a quick buck. I hope the judge throws the book at them.
It's not the judge's jurisdiction to stop that. It's the housing authority's job shutdown these illegal Airbnbs then the landlord can cancel the lease and go to court on the condition the tenant has broke the lease agreement. It takes months or even a year to get these things sorted out.

It's all because of bureaucracy. Which is why many landlords I know rather rent out to illegals than to strangers who are looking to cash in on airbnb rentals.
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Old 12-13-2015, 11:58 PM
 
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None of you guys lived in Central Queens. Jackson Heights and Elmhurst in the 80s and well into the 90s often had houses with 50 illegal immigrants living in them. The landlord who owned my apartment tried to evict the people above us for having 20 people living in a two bedroom apartment. They had no furniture, just people sleeping on matts on the floor.

Basically illegal immigrants cannot legitimately live on the money they are making so they live in neighborhoods where they are allowed to do this. After white flight happened in Central Queens this is what happened.

As gentrification has happened, the people who live like this (50 parts to a house) have moved out to bad parts of Jersey or Long Island.

The landlord clearly did not do his homework when he rented out to do. Today any worthwhile landlord is doing to do credit checks, go over payroll stubs, tax returns, and other things to vet who is a good tenant.

Clearly if these two men could have afforded the three bedroom apartment they would not be doing this.
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